In this episode, we sit down with advocate journalist Grant Smith Ellis for an in-depth discussion on one of the most pivotal legal battles in Massachusetts cannabis history: Goldberg vs. O’Brien CCC. Grant breaks down the case surrounding State Treasurer Deborah Goldberg’s unlawful firing of Cannabis Control Commission Chair Shannon O’Brien, explaining what it could mean for the future of cannabis regulation in the Commonwealth.

Beyond the lawsuit, Grant shares his insights on the current state of the cannabis industry—both in Massachusetts and nationally—including how corporate players are pushing for tighter regulations that squeeze out small operators. He also gives us an update on his journey as a law student and offers his perspective on where the CCC stands today.This episode delivers sharp reporting, thoughtful analysis, and a unique look at the intersection of law, policy, and the cannabis marketplace.