In this episode, I sit down with a powerhouse entrepreneur—Jeff Fenster, the founder of Everbowl, WeBuild, and a string of 8- and 9-figure companies that prove relationships are the real currency.

But this convo goes way beyond business. We get into the mental blueprint behind scaling sustainably, spotting real opportunities, and building a network that moves the needle more than money ever could.

Jeff breaks down why who you know will always matter more than what you know, how to take decisive action when everyone else is hesitating, and the exact systems he uses to scale fast—without burning out.

If you’ve been grinding, trying to figure out your next move, or feeling stuck in a loop of activity with no real traction—this episode will give you a new perspective, and a real game plan.

🎧 Tap in and learn how to move with purpose, protect your energy, and build something that actually lasts.

✅ What You’ll Walk Away With:

• Why relationships and proximity are more valuable than resumes
• How to build momentum fast—even if you’re starting from scratch
• The truth about scaling: what most people get wrong
• Jeff’s process for spotting the right trends (and ignoring the noise)
• Why SOPs and systems are the secret to sustainable growth
• The difference between activity and productivity
• How to manage your energy like an elite performer
• The mindset you need to win the long game
• What success really looks like—and how to define it for yourself

⏱️ Timestamps:

00:00 – Introduction to the Journey
02:48 – The Importance of Belief and Timing in Business
06:07 – Identifying Opportunities and Trends
08:59 – Building Relationships in a Digital Age
12:02 – Decisive Action and Overcoming Fear
15:06 – The Power of Relationships and Networking
18:10 – Learning Through Action and Experience
32:25 – Taking Decisive Action Towards Success
39:41 – Scaling Sustainably: The Importance of Systems
50:52 – Energy Management: Activity vs. Productivity
01:00:10 – Winning the Day: The Key to Sustained Energy

🔗 Connect with Joe
🌎 Website: joedepaola.me
📸 Instagram: @joeydepaola
🔗 LinkedIn: Joe De-Paola

🔗 Connect with Jeff Fenster:

🌎 Website: https://jefffenster.com/
📸 Instagram: @fensterjeff
🍓 Everbowl: https://www.everbowl.com/
📚 Book: Relationship Bank Account – Buy on Amazon