Episode Overview

In this episode of The Future-Ready Advisor, host Sam Sivarajan sits down with John Kailunas, a wealth advisor, author, and retirement mentor who brings a fresh perspective to one of life's most important transitions. John has spent decades helping clients build, preserve, and transition wealth, but noticed a troubling pattern: clients who had all the financial pieces in place were still floundering in retirement.

They discuss the emotional and psychological aspects of retirement planning often overlooked by advisors, the importance of having purpose beyond financial security, and how advisors can evolve their practice to meet clients' deeper needs. John shares powerful client stories and practical insights from his book Mission Retirement, offering a roadmap for creating fulfilling post-career chapters.

Key Quote

"All money does is give you liberty. The art is how you make people feel and how you leave them." --- John Kailunas

Key Takeaways

• Retirement is a transition, not a finish line - Many people spend decades planning financially but virtually no time planning what they'll actually do
• Purpose impacts longevity - Clients without clear direction often experience rapid physical and mental deterioration within 2-5 years of retirement
• The advisor's role must evolve - Adding the "art" of helping clients visualize their dreams creates unduplicatable value and deeper relationships
• Start small with deliberate actions - Like tiny habits, beginning with one meaningful step can lead to transformative retirement planning
• Involve spouses in the conversation - Using structured approaches helps couples align on their retirement vision and priorities

• "They had the money, but lacked the mission."
• "Money gives you liberty."
• "The art is how you make people feel."
• "We're wasting a tremendous resource."
• "Start with something small."
• "Practice gratitude daily."
• "Be deliberate with your actions."

01:09 -- The Importance of Purpose in Retirement 05:59 -- Planning for a Fulfilling Retirement

10:05 -- The Consequences of Lack of Purpose 16:01 -- The Evolving Role of Financial Advisors 20:26 -- The Importance of Small Steps in Retirement Planning

Resources Mentioned

• Mission Retirement by John Kailunas and Kevin Burwell - Available on Amazon and Kindle
• Catalyst for Growth coaching and consulting

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