In this remarkable episode of the Fire Chief Podcast, two former CMOs, now both dedicated to working with medical students, Dr. Lee Scheinbart interviews Dr. Stuart Marcus, a seasoned physician leader. Dr. Marcus was a surgical leader at Bellevue Hospital when the planes crashed into the Twin Towers on September 11, 2001. His life changed forever that day, as did so many others. They discuss the importance of integrating leadership training into medical education and the need for students and physicians to be prepared for a rapidly changing healthcare landscape. Dr. Marcus is pioneering a program for medical students to spend time with health system CEOs and to live and breathe the dynamics of healthcare from the C Suite. In this conversation, the two former CMOs discuss the evolving landscape of healthcare, focusing on change management, the future of physician leadership, the impact of AI, and the challenges faced by physician leaders. They emphasize the importance of understanding the reasons behind changes in healthcare, the necessity of team-based care, and the need for adaptability in leadership roles.