When I was 19, I thought the goal was simple—make a lot of money, fast. I wanted freedom, autonomy, and proof that I could do it on my own. What I didn’t realize then was that chasing money for the sake of it will leave you just as broke as being without it.

In this episode, I sit down with Ryan and Cory for a deep, honest, and often hilarious conversation about what really matters in business and life. We unpack my early days: dropping out of college, getting my real estate license, failing miserably as an agent, and eventually stumbling into wholesaling. I walk through the deal that changed everything—a $105k check at 19—and how that moment shifted my mindset from "make a quick buck" to "build something sustainable."

We dive into why financial freedom isn’t a dollar amount—it’s a lifestyle shift. I share how $20-30K/month with complete control over your time might make you feel wealthier than a 7-figure salary working for someone else. We talk about the ego traps of big business, why more employees and revenue doesn’t always mean more happiness, and how I found peace in running lean and living intentionally.

The guys and I also talk about identity—why so many entrepreneurs wrap theirs around their business or bank account—and how dangerous that can be. I share the story of how I got into the right rooms early, paid $15K I barely had to go to a mastermind in Maui, and ended up building lifelong relationships with people who changed the trajectory of my career.

Whether you’re just getting started or deep into the game, this conversation is about more than money. It’s about freedom, self-awareness, and doing the work that actually matters—to you. No fluff, no flexing—just a real conversation with people who’ve been through it.

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