In Part II of The War We Owe Them, Dave and Steve sit down with Captain Bryan Harper of the Indiana State Police. As a former ICAC Commander and now the Director of the Indiana Fusion Center, Captain Harper shares his insight into the fight against Child Sexual Abuse Material (CSAM).

The conversation covers the role of ICAC task forces, fusion centers, the most effective tools available, and the challenges of keeping pace with evolving technology. They explore how investigations unfold across local, state, federal, and international levels. They also examine the complex role of private tech companies in both supporting law enforcement and balancing privacy concerns.

Captain Harper discusses the toll this work takes on investigators, the difficulty of replacing those who can no longer continue, and what the Indiana State Police is doing to lead the fight against CSAM. Finally, they discuss what can truly be done to stop CSAM, the obstacles in the way, and why public education, awareness, and legislative action are critical. This isn’t just law enforcement’s battle, we need help from the public if we want to win the war against CSAM.

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