Fed up with missed opportunities because your crypto is scattered across different chains? In this episode, Vaibhav Chellani, co-founder of Socket, shares his vision for a future where blockchain fragmentation is no longer a barrier.

From pioneering ZK rollups before they were mainstream to building Socket, Vaibhav tackles the big issues facing crypto today. We discuss why bridge aggregation isn't the solution, how AI agents could soon make on-chain trades seamless, and why the real conversation isn’t about appchains vs general-purpose chains, but about who controls the state.

Socket is on a mission to make crypto as easy as using a credit card—forget about which chain you’re on or how to bridge assets. Hear why 400+ projects, including Coinbase Wallet, MetaMask, and Synthetix, are already using Socket's infrastructure.

Tap into this episode to imagine a world where crypto feels intuitive, unified, and hassle-free.Key Moments: 00:00 - The Future of Front-Ends and AI Agents 03:02 - Chain Abstraction: A User-Centric Approach 05:55 - Scaling Ethereum: The Role of Rollups 09:10 - Building Socket Protocol and Chain Abstraction 12:04 - Bungee: A Marketplace for Cross-Chain Swaps 14:57 - The Mechanics of Bungee and Socket 17:46 - The Value Chain in Cross-Chain Transactions 21:06 - Permissionless Solutions and Market Dynamics 30:09 - Market Structure and Counterparty Dynamics 34:21 - Understanding Chain Abstraction and Its Implications 36:47 - Exploring Modular Auto Flow Auctions (MOFA) 40:15 - AI Agents and User Experience in Crypto Transactions 45:06 - The Future of Cross-Chain Interactions and Magic Accounts 52:23 - Solana vs. Ethereum: Perspectives on Blockchain Diversity 59:08 - The Shift Towards Chain Abstraction and User-Centric Solutions