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The Two Jacks - Episode 122 - Tasmania’s Numbers Game, Nazi Clowns, and Gaza’s No-Good Options

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The Jacks start in Hong Kong’s downpour before unpacking Tasmania’s post‑election arithmetic and a machete “amnesty” with bins outside cop shops. They wade through protests, policing, and the far‑right’s antics, then dig into the Gareth Ward case and the thorny politics of expulsion. There’s a sharp turn into AI copyright fights, family life vs screens, and a listener letter on pilot mental health.

Mid‑show is a deep dive on ME/CFS’s genetic breakthrough, then a long, unsentimental look at Gaza, Hamas, ceasefires, and who could plausibly govern anything next. Stateside, Tulsi, Brennan, Mueller, and the Epstein files swirl together with youth‑vote and gerrymander chat. They close with sport: Wallabies’ best fortnight in ages, a cracking England–India Test, Ashes nerves, AFL chaos at Melbourne, and a quick NRL/Swans CEO note—before ending on a Trader Joe’s chicken funeral and a cheeky Ozempic joke.

Chapters

00:00:00 — Hong Kong’s black rain
Triple black rain signals; ~300mm in a day at Mid‑Levels.
City empties as people stay home; flood photos doing the rounds.
00:01:36 — Tasmania’s numbers game
Premier commissioned without a majority; Greens won’t move no‑confidence.
Governor Barbara Baker’s “test it on the floor” remark and what’s in scope.
Labor/Greens maths; low appetite for another poll, but conditions exist.
00:05:49 — Bins for blades: the machete “amnesty”
Drop‑off slots outside police stations; comparison to firearms amnesties.
Media flurries vs actual incident data; last big cluster months ago.
00:07:21 — Protests, policing, and the far‑right
Sydney Bridge March crowd size; VIPs photographed with Khamenei backdrop.
Nazis on Parliament steps in balaclavas; state‑by‑state policing contrasts.
Flags, chants, and where police draw the line on intervention.
00:14:18 — The Gareth Ward mess
Conviction details; bail, incarceration, and expulsion difficulty.
Kiama re‑election as an independent, salary while imprisoned.
Appeals, precedent, and public disgust.
00:20:20 — Farewells and AI fights
David Dale and Col Joy remembered.
Productivity Commission’s AI stance; artists vs scraping; Zuckerberg’s book haul.
Peter Garrett’s industry savvy; JP Morgan’s internal AI rollout.
00:26:16 — Kids, screens, and breakfast
The great iPad panic; why we don’t judge strangers’ mornings.
Family meals are good; mind your own business is better.
00:28:23 — Mailbag: pilots and mental health
FAA caution vs counselling stigma; past “deliberate crash” cases.
Policy that pushes people away from help is bad policy.
00:31:10 — ME/CFS: genetics change the story
DecodeME links to immune and nervous system pathways.
It’s physiological, not psychosomatic; GET/CBT harm for PEM sufferers.
RACGP guidance lag vs UK/US updates; a long‑overdue turn.
00:37:10 — Gaza, Hamas, and the absence of good options
2005 pull‑out, tunnels, aid skimming; ceasefire vs aid corridors.
Who could govern Gaza; peacekeepers, UNRWA skepticism, and Hamas reality.
Ehud Barak’s Qatar funding allegations; elections, starvation, ethics.
01:03:21 — US politics: Russiagate reruns and Epstein files
Tulsi’s evolution; Brennan on TV; Mueller was Trump‑era appointed.
“Lock her up” vs AI Obama arrest video; the file‑release calculus.
Youth‑vote shifts; Republicans’ state‑house gerrymanders.
01:21:42 — Media Watch vs Sky
The TikTok immigration clip Sky ran and then pulled.
Why mainstream reporting beats cherry‑picked viral outrage.
01:24:44 — Sport: a proper weekend
Wallabies find a game fans can love; Lions tour lifts the code.
England–India: great chase, Siraj’s spell, and pressure’s toll.
Ashes preview: Bazball mettle in Aus conditions; pace attack is the key.
AFL: Simon Goodwin sacked, Melbourne chaos, Adelaide surging; NRL Panthers steady.
Swans appoint Matthew Pavlich CEO.
01:36:54 — Chicken funerals and closing
A full black‑robed rite in a US supermarket.
“Put Ozempic in the water” gag; letters and see‑you‑next‑week.

Notable quotes

00:00:25 — “We had three black rain signals… 300 mils in a day here at Mid‑Levels.”
00:03:31 — “It’s not for the governor to be deciding when numbers are tested.”
00:06:01 — “Bins outside the police station so miscreants can slide the machete through the slot.”
00:08:43 — “They stood on the steps of Parliament and zig‑hiled their way across that protest.”
00:14:09 — “Personally, I think let people tell you who they are.”
00:18:50 — “He’s essentially been convicted of rape… he’s going to get a holiday.”
00:24:49 — “To boost productivity by 4%, it’s decided you just let AI go.”
00:33:59 — “It is neurological and immunological. It is not psychiatric.”
00:47:42 — “There are no good choices at the moment.”
01:25:26 — “The best fortnight for the Wallabies in a very, very long time.”

Who and what gets mentioned

People: Barbara Baker; Jacinta Allan; Bob Carr; Gareth Ward; Chris Minns; Meredith Burgmann; Bruce Learman; David Dale; Col Joy; Peter Garrett; Mark Zuckerberg; Jamie Dimon; Andy Devereaux‑Cook; Ghazi Hamad; Benjamin Netanyahu; Eyal Zamir; Ehud Barak; John Brennan; Tulsi Gabbard; Hillary Clinton; Bill Clinton; Pam Bondi; Prince Andrew; Michael Vaughan; Ricky Ponting; Dave Warner; Joffre Archer; Mark Wood; Simon Goodwin; Brad Green; Matthew Pavlich; Tom Harley; Abby Phillip; Scott Jennings; Van Jones.
Places: Hong Kong; Tasmania; Melbourne; Sydney; North Shore; Central; Opera House; Kiama; Silverwater; Gaza; West Bank; Qatar; Egypt; Netherlands; Japan; Texas; California; Massachusetts; Illinois; New York; Maryland; Old Trafford; Perth; The Gabba; Adelaide; San Francisco.
Organisations/teams: Greens; Labor; Liberal Party; National Socialist Alliance; IDF; Hezbollah; UNRWA; Palestinian Authority; Hamas; Mossad; BBC; Jerusalem Post; FAA; DecodeME; RACGP; Productivity Commission; Sky News; Media Watch; CIA; Wallabies; Penrith Panthers; Sydney Swans; AFL; NRL; JP Morgan.

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