In this episode of The Color Between the Lines, journalist and host Esther Dillard speaks with James and Krista White, the father-daughter team behind the acclaimed book Culture Design: Strategies for Building Diverse, Equitable, and Innovative Organizations.

They discuss what it really takes to build company cultures that dont just talk about diversity but live it. From boardrooms to classrooms, the Whites share practical steps leaders can take to create spaces where everyone feels valued, respected, and heard.

Key topics include:

• Why culture must start at the top and how leaders can model inclusion

• How Gen Z and millennial employees are reshaping workplace expectations

• Lessons from real-world companies that got it right

• The importance of intergenerational collaboration in equity work

Hosted by Esther Dillard, award-winning journalist and storytelling strategist.