What does it take to lead through uncertainty—and how can founders and board members scale themselves as effectively as their businesses?

In this episode of The Boardroom Path, host Ralph Grayson speaks with Rupert Jones, former Major General turned leadership coach and boardroom advisor. Drawing from frontline military experience and years of mentoring founders and executives, Rupert explores how leadership is misunderstood, underdeveloped, and often the root cause of failure in scaling companies.

The conversation covers everything from the importance of self-awareness and communication to how boards can build trust and foster influence-led leadership. You’ll also hear how Rupert helps founders move from code-focused technicians to capable CEOs, and how boards can offer real value beyond compliance. Whether you're a first-time founder, an aspiring NED, or a seasoned leader, this episode offers invaluable insights into the mindset and skill set needed to navigate complexity with confidence.

• (00:00) - Welcome to The Boardroom Path
• (01:42) - Leadership in Today's Geopolitical Landscape
• (03:42) - Transitioning from Military to Commercial Leadership
• (05:16) - The Importance of Leadership Training
• (10:02) - Diversity and Dynamics in the Boardroom
• (20:26) - The Role of Advisors and Board Members
• (28:24) - Self-Awareness and Leadership Challenges
• (34:24) - Leadership Styles and Board Dynamics
• (40:50) - Teamwork and Cohesion in Growing Companies
• (44:52) - The Importance of Effective Communication
• (48:24) - Resilience in Uncertain Times
• (50:52) - Geopolitical Awareness and Board Preparedness
• (53:10) - Final Thoughts

Rupert Jones: Former Standing Joint Force Commander in the British Army, Rupert now works as a leadership coach and boardroom advisor. He specialises in helping founders, executives, and NEDs apply practical leadership strategies drawn from high-stakes environments.

Ralph Grayson: Ralph Grayson is a Partner in the Board Practice at Sainty Hird & Partners, bringing extensive experience in board-level recruitment, assessment, and advisory services. With a deep understanding of the corporate governance landscape, Ralph specialises in guiding senior executives as they transition into impactful boardroom careers. His thoughtful approach, combined with a passion for developing effective leaders, enables him to facilitate insightful conversations that equip aspiring and newly appointed Non-Executive Directors with the tools they need to succeed. Through The Boardroom Path, Ralph leverages his extensive professional network and expertise to empower listeners on their journey into the boardroom.

What You’ll Learn in This Episode:

• Why self-awareness is essential for leaders at every stage
• How boards can use trust and influence to drive impact
• The biggest mistakes founders make when transitioning to CEO
• How to assess leadership readiness in your executive team
• Why coaching and leadership training are critical in scale-up culture

Action Points:

1. Invest in Leadership Development: Just like technical skills, leadership must be taught, practised, and refined. Businesses should prioritise ongoing development, from training to coaching, across all senior roles.
2. Build Diverse Boards That Challenge Thinking: Avoid groupthink by bringing together board members with varied backgrounds and perspectives. The goal is to ask the right questions and identify blind spots early.
3. Use Influence, Not Authority, in the Boardroom: Effective board members lead through subtle influence rather than directive control. This approach is particularly important in scaling businesses where influence drives trust.
4. Help Founders Scale Themselves: Founders often need support to move from product creators to strategic CEOs. Advisors and boards can help by asking the right questions and offering mentorship, not just oversight.
5. Prioritise Organisational Resilience: Boards and leadership teams should anticipate shocks and build readiness into company culture. This includes scenario planning, open communication, and maintaining personal resilience to lead through volatility.

The Boardroom Path is the essential podcast for aspiring and newly appointed Non-Executive Directors (NEDs) navigating the journey from executive leadership to the boardroom. Hosted by Ralph Grayson, partner at Sainty Hird & Partners, each episode offers insightful conversations with industry leaders, seasoned board directors, and governance experts. Our guests share practical strategies, valuable perspectives, and actionable advice on how to effectively transition into board roles, maximise your impact, and build a rewarding NED career.

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