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Bitcoin is replacing real estate—and it’s happening faster than you think.

In this episode, Leon Wankum, financial economist and real estate developer breaks down why Bitcoin is rapidly outcompeting real estate as a store of value, investment vehicle, and source of cashflow. With over 15 years in real estate and a background in financial economics, Leon brings unmatched insight into how the rules of wealth-building are being rewritten. From leveraging Bitcoin as pristine collateral to MicroStrategy’s game-changing financial products, this conversation challenges the long-held dominance of physical assets—and makes a compelling case that Bitcoin isn’t just an alternative investment, it’s becoming the benchmark. Whether you're a seasoned investor, real estate pro, or Bitcoin skeptic, this episode will shift how you think about capital, yield, and the future of money.

You’ll Learn:

  • How MicroStrategy’s financial products are engineered to outperform real estate cashflow without leverage
  • Why Bitcoin’s purchasing power growth outpaces even leveraged real estate over time
  • What makes Bitcoin a superior form of collateral compared to property assets
  • How institutional capital is shifting from bonds and real estate toward Bitcoin-backed instruments
  • Why rising interest rates are exposing vulnerabilities in traditional real estate investing
  • How Bitcoin flips the time value of money and redefines financial risk
  • What the decline of commercial real estate reveals about the larger economic paradigm shift
  • Why measuring wealth in Bitcoin changes investment logic and portfolio strategy
  • How real estate developers can practically integrate Bitcoin into financing and reserve strategies

Timestamps:

[00:00] Introduction

[01:45] How Bitcoin flips the time value of money

[03:10] Bitcoin vs real estate as yield-generating assets

[05:30] Inflation benchmarks and real estate performance

[06:55] Why Bitcoin’s growth outpaces even leveraged real estate

[08:10] Bitcoin as superior collateral and digital real estate

[09:35] MicroStrategy’s bond and preferred stock offerings explained

[12:00] Real estate investor motivations and the shift to Bitcoin

[14:20] Bitcoin’s threat to the $300 trillion real estate market

[16:00] Declining commercial real estate value in a new economy

[18:35] Central banking errors and rising interest rate impact

[20:15] Real estate struggles while Bitcoin rises

[22:00] Paradigm shift in storing and exchanging value

[24:05] Clear math: Bitcoin vs real estate returns over time

[26:20] Institutional capital shifting through MicroStrategy

[28:00] Why Bitcoin is now the true investment benchmark

[30:10] Will Bitcoin’s volatility decline or persist

[32:20] Volatility as a resilience mechanism in Bitcoin

Want to start a podcast like this one? Book your free podcast planning call here.

Resources Mentioned:

Bitcoin As Real Estate by Surfer Jim | Article

Learn more about Leon’s work on his Website. You can also subscribe to his Substack and follow him on LinkedIn and X.

Find more from Scott:

Scott Dedels | X

Block Rewards | Instagram

Block Rewards | YouTube

Block Rewards | TikTok

Block Rewards | Website

Block Rewards | LinkedIn

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87 episodes

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Bitcoin is replacing real estate—and it’s happening faster than you think.

In this episode, Leon Wankum, financial economist and real estate developer breaks down why Bitcoin is rapidly outcompeting real estate as a store of value, investment vehicle, and source of cashflow. With over 15 years in real estate and a background in financial economics, Leon brings unmatched insight into how the rules of wealth-building are being rewritten. From leveraging Bitcoin as pristine collateral to MicroStrategy’s game-changing financial products, this conversation challenges the long-held dominance of physical assets—and makes a compelling case that Bitcoin isn’t just an alternative investment, it’s becoming the benchmark. Whether you're a seasoned investor, real estate pro, or Bitcoin skeptic, this episode will shift how you think about capital, yield, and the future of money.

You’ll Learn:

  • How MicroStrategy’s financial products are engineered to outperform real estate cashflow without leverage
  • Why Bitcoin’s purchasing power growth outpaces even leveraged real estate over time
  • What makes Bitcoin a superior form of collateral compared to property assets
  • How institutional capital is shifting from bonds and real estate toward Bitcoin-backed instruments
  • Why rising interest rates are exposing vulnerabilities in traditional real estate investing
  • How Bitcoin flips the time value of money and redefines financial risk
  • What the decline of commercial real estate reveals about the larger economic paradigm shift
  • Why measuring wealth in Bitcoin changes investment logic and portfolio strategy
  • How real estate developers can practically integrate Bitcoin into financing and reserve strategies

Timestamps:

[00:00] Introduction

[01:45] How Bitcoin flips the time value of money

[03:10] Bitcoin vs real estate as yield-generating assets

[05:30] Inflation benchmarks and real estate performance

[06:55] Why Bitcoin’s growth outpaces even leveraged real estate

[08:10] Bitcoin as superior collateral and digital real estate

[09:35] MicroStrategy’s bond and preferred stock offerings explained

[12:00] Real estate investor motivations and the shift to Bitcoin

[14:20] Bitcoin’s threat to the $300 trillion real estate market

[16:00] Declining commercial real estate value in a new economy

[18:35] Central banking errors and rising interest rate impact

[20:15] Real estate struggles while Bitcoin rises

[22:00] Paradigm shift in storing and exchanging value

[24:05] Clear math: Bitcoin vs real estate returns over time

[26:20] Institutional capital shifting through MicroStrategy

[28:00] Why Bitcoin is now the true investment benchmark

[30:10] Will Bitcoin’s volatility decline or persist

[32:20] Volatility as a resilience mechanism in Bitcoin

Want to start a podcast like this one? Book your free podcast planning call here.

Resources Mentioned:

Bitcoin As Real Estate by Surfer Jim | Article

Learn more about Leon’s work on his Website. You can also subscribe to his Substack and follow him on LinkedIn and X.

Find more from Scott:

Scott Dedels | X

Block Rewards | Instagram

Block Rewards | YouTube

Block Rewards | TikTok

Block Rewards | Website

Block Rewards | LinkedIn

  continue reading

87 episodes

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