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LIVE DISCUSSION: "WHO YOU GONNA CALL?" Job 5:1-4 (Part 3 of 4)

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Ever been on the receiving end of “I’ve seen this before, so here’s what God is doing to you”? We walk through Job 5 and watch Eliphaz turn general truths into sharp weapons, calling Job a fool, questioning his past prosperity, and even using the death of his children as supposed proof of hidden sin. The result isn’t comfort. It’s a clinic on how religious certainty can wound when it breaks free from humility and Scripture.
We pull apart the logic: appeals to experience, spiritualized stories, and cherry-picked principles like sowing and reaping. Then we contrast that with what God actually reveals in Job’s prologue and with the heart of wise counsel. Along the way, we tackle a hot-button issue—if forgiveness is finished at the cross, why confess sin? Because confession is not re-earning pardon; it is agreeing with God, hating what Christ bore, and growing by the Spirit. That growth looks like patience under provocation, restraint with our tongues, and a fierce refusal to diagnose someone’s soul from their circumstances.
You’ll hear practical guardrails for real conversations: slow down your certainty, measure every claim by Scripture, beware “God told me” as a trump card, and refuse to weaponize general truths against specific people. Pain is not automatically punishment. Prosperity is not automatically pride. Comfort listens, clarifies, and speaks gently. If you want a richer, more biblical reflex when friends suffer—and a sturdier theology for your own dark days—this one will sharpen your heart.
If this resonated, follow the show, share it with a friend who needs wise comfort, and leave a review with one insight you’re taking into your next hard conversation.

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Chapters

1. Surface Judgments Versus The Heart (00:00:00)

2. Sanctification, Feelings, And Scripture (00:00:58)

3. Eliphaz’s Character And Appeals To Experience (00:02:57)

4. Beware “God Told Me” Claims (00:05:22)

5. Calling Job A Fool And Its Implications (00:07:00)

6. Sowing, Reaping, And Misapplied Principles (00:09:10)

7. Is Prosperity Proof Of Sin (00:12:00)

8. General Truths Weaponized Against Job (00:14:20)

9. The Children Accusation And Cruelty (00:16:20)

10. Responding To Provocation Like Christ (00:19:10)

11. Patience Under Tongue-Lashings (00:21:30)

12. “Crushed In The Gate” And No Defense (00:24:00)

13. Generational Sin Texts Misused (00:26:30)

14. Satan’s Pressure Through Friends (00:28:30)

15. Can The Friends Be Excused (00:30:00)

1453 episodes

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Ever been on the receiving end of “I’ve seen this before, so here’s what God is doing to you”? We walk through Job 5 and watch Eliphaz turn general truths into sharp weapons, calling Job a fool, questioning his past prosperity, and even using the death of his children as supposed proof of hidden sin. The result isn’t comfort. It’s a clinic on how religious certainty can wound when it breaks free from humility and Scripture.
We pull apart the logic: appeals to experience, spiritualized stories, and cherry-picked principles like sowing and reaping. Then we contrast that with what God actually reveals in Job’s prologue and with the heart of wise counsel. Along the way, we tackle a hot-button issue—if forgiveness is finished at the cross, why confess sin? Because confession is not re-earning pardon; it is agreeing with God, hating what Christ bore, and growing by the Spirit. That growth looks like patience under provocation, restraint with our tongues, and a fierce refusal to diagnose someone’s soul from their circumstances.
You’ll hear practical guardrails for real conversations: slow down your certainty, measure every claim by Scripture, beware “God told me” as a trump card, and refuse to weaponize general truths against specific people. Pain is not automatically punishment. Prosperity is not automatically pride. Comfort listens, clarifies, and speaks gently. If you want a richer, more biblical reflex when friends suffer—and a sturdier theology for your own dark days—this one will sharpen your heart.
If this resonated, follow the show, share it with a friend who needs wise comfort, and leave a review with one insight you’re taking into your next hard conversation.

Support the show

BE PROVOKED AND BE PERSUADED!

  continue reading

Chapters

1. Surface Judgments Versus The Heart (00:00:00)

2. Sanctification, Feelings, And Scripture (00:00:58)

3. Eliphaz’s Character And Appeals To Experience (00:02:57)

4. Beware “God Told Me” Claims (00:05:22)

5. Calling Job A Fool And Its Implications (00:07:00)

6. Sowing, Reaping, And Misapplied Principles (00:09:10)

7. Is Prosperity Proof Of Sin (00:12:00)

8. General Truths Weaponized Against Job (00:14:20)

9. The Children Accusation And Cruelty (00:16:20)

10. Responding To Provocation Like Christ (00:19:10)

11. Patience Under Tongue-Lashings (00:21:30)

12. “Crushed In The Gate” And No Defense (00:24:00)

13. Generational Sin Texts Misused (00:26:30)

14. Satan’s Pressure Through Friends (00:28:30)

15. Can The Friends Be Excused (00:30:00)

1453 episodes

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