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Disrupt or Die: Scaling Old-School Industries with Tech

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Tired of overthinking your tech idea?
While you're busy planning the "perfect" product, your competitors are already building and shipping.
In this exclusive episode of Tech It or Leave It, we go beyond the personal stories and dive deep into the strategic mindset of Dennis Lee, a technical founder who successfully built a multi-million-dollar platform in a traditional, "ancient" industry.
This isn’t a story about luck, it’s a masterclass in swift execution, strategic pivots, and focusing on what actually matters.
Dennis shares the lessons he learned from working with countless founders, revealing why most non-technical entrepreneurs get stuck and what you can do to avoid their most common mistakes. He breaks down the difference between a "perfect" product and a valuable one, and why chasing the first is a guaranteed path to failure.
Here’s what you’ll learn in this episode:
✅ The single biggest mindset shift every non-technical founder needs to make to build a valuable product from day one.
✅ The #1 red flag to look for when choosing a tech partner that will save you from a major financial pitfall.
✅ How to move from idea to execution quickly and what to do when your first attempt fails.
✅ Why building trust with your tech team is more important than any line of code.
This episode will challenge everything you think you know about building a tech product. Opportunities won't wait for your product to be perfect. The time to act is now.
Follow Dennis Lee:
https://www.instagram.com/dennis13e/
More about Cloudjoi:
https://my.linkedin.com/company/cloudjoi
https://www.cloudjoi.com/
#businessgrowth #AIforStartups #TechPodcast #aiforbusiness #aiinbusiness #techitorleaveit
01:11 Who is Dennis Lee?
04:39 Dennis Lee's Background
06:51 The First Story: Cloud Theatre
18:41 The Second Story: Cloudjoi
28:47 Mindset Shift for Non-Technical Founders
32:00 Choosing a Tech Partner
39:24 Marrying Tech with Traditional Industries
48:33 Lesson from performing that made him a better entrepreneur
49:08 Mistake tech teams make when building for creators

Support the show

🎙️ More from Adrian & Upstack Studio
Website: https://upstackstudio.com
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adrianchinghc
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@adrianchinghc
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/adrianchinghc

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Chapters

1. Disrupt or Die: Scaling Old-School Industries with Tech (00:00:00)

2. Who is Dennis Lee? (00:01:11)

3. Dennis Lee's Background (00:04:39)

4. The First Story: Cloud Theatre (00:06:51)

5. The Second Story: Cloudjoi (00:18:41)

6. Mindset Shift for Non-Technical Founders (00:28:47)

7. Choosing a Tech Partner (00:32:00)

8. Marrying Tech with Traditional Industries (00:39:24)

9. Lesson from performing that made him a better entrepreneur (00:48:33)

10. Mistake tech teams make when building for creators (00:49:08)

7 episodes

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Content provided by Adrian Ching. All podcast content including episodes, graphics, and podcast descriptions are uploaded and provided directly by Adrian Ching or their podcast platform partner. If you believe someone is using your copyrighted work without your permission, you can follow the process outlined here https://podcastplayer.com/legal.

Tired of overthinking your tech idea?
While you're busy planning the "perfect" product, your competitors are already building and shipping.
In this exclusive episode of Tech It or Leave It, we go beyond the personal stories and dive deep into the strategic mindset of Dennis Lee, a technical founder who successfully built a multi-million-dollar platform in a traditional, "ancient" industry.
This isn’t a story about luck, it’s a masterclass in swift execution, strategic pivots, and focusing on what actually matters.
Dennis shares the lessons he learned from working with countless founders, revealing why most non-technical entrepreneurs get stuck and what you can do to avoid their most common mistakes. He breaks down the difference between a "perfect" product and a valuable one, and why chasing the first is a guaranteed path to failure.
Here’s what you’ll learn in this episode:
✅ The single biggest mindset shift every non-technical founder needs to make to build a valuable product from day one.
✅ The #1 red flag to look for when choosing a tech partner that will save you from a major financial pitfall.
✅ How to move from idea to execution quickly and what to do when your first attempt fails.
✅ Why building trust with your tech team is more important than any line of code.
This episode will challenge everything you think you know about building a tech product. Opportunities won't wait for your product to be perfect. The time to act is now.
Follow Dennis Lee:
https://www.instagram.com/dennis13e/
More about Cloudjoi:
https://my.linkedin.com/company/cloudjoi
https://www.cloudjoi.com/
#businessgrowth #AIforStartups #TechPodcast #aiforbusiness #aiinbusiness #techitorleaveit
01:11 Who is Dennis Lee?
04:39 Dennis Lee's Background
06:51 The First Story: Cloud Theatre
18:41 The Second Story: Cloudjoi
28:47 Mindset Shift for Non-Technical Founders
32:00 Choosing a Tech Partner
39:24 Marrying Tech with Traditional Industries
48:33 Lesson from performing that made him a better entrepreneur
49:08 Mistake tech teams make when building for creators

Support the show

🎙️ More from Adrian & Upstack Studio
Website: https://upstackstudio.com
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adrianchinghc
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@adrianchinghc
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/adrianchinghc

  continue reading

Chapters

1. Disrupt or Die: Scaling Old-School Industries with Tech (00:00:00)

2. Who is Dennis Lee? (00:01:11)

3. Dennis Lee's Background (00:04:39)

4. The First Story: Cloud Theatre (00:06:51)

5. The Second Story: Cloudjoi (00:18:41)

6. Mindset Shift for Non-Technical Founders (00:28:47)

7. Choosing a Tech Partner (00:32:00)

8. Marrying Tech with Traditional Industries (00:39:24)

9. Lesson from performing that made him a better entrepreneur (00:48:33)

10. Mistake tech teams make when building for creators (00:49:08)

7 episodes

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