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In conversation with Ultan this week, David Gough, one of Ireland's most respected GAA referees and school Principal of Scoil Mhuire Gan Smál in Inchicore, brings us into the fascinating intersection of his professional worlds.
From the historical landscape of Slane, County Meath that shaped his early years, to the values that guide his leadership today, David shares how his upbringing created foundations of respect and equality that underpin both his officiating and educational work. His story reveals powerful parallels between managing high stakes sporting events and nurturing a vibrant school community.
"Leadership is an action, not a position," David explains, detailing how he creates cultures of respect in both arenas. His approach to leadership, with a focus on interconnection rather than hierarchy, creates school corridors "full of life, sound, singing, and laughing" hallmarks of the uniquely positive atmosphere that visitors from other countries often find so striking about Irish education.
David's candid discussion about balancing professional demands, his passion for sport, and the continuous learning curve of principalship offers wisdom for anyone juggling multiple responsibilities.

Listen now to this conversation that reveals how respect, fairness and love, create environments where both children and communities flourish.
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