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In this second installment of the Talk with Kristen (with an e) virtual book club, Kristen welcomes back guests Kelly and Alexis to continue their heartfelt dive into Perfect Is Boring (And Tastes Like Kale) by Jess Johnston. Together, they unpack Part Two of the book, exploring Lies 6–9—like the belief that rejection will destroy us, that our job is to make everyone happy, and that asking for help means weakness.

The trio reflects on how these lies impact real connection, sharing personal stories of moving, maturing, and learning to trade performance for belonging. With vulnerable and relatable insights about people-pleasing, social media traps, and redefining friendship, this episode invites listeners to reconsider what true connection really looks like—and to let go of the pressure to be perfect.

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