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00:00:00 - Surf's Up: Episode 6.9
This conversation covers three topics. The first discusses the challenges of behavior change in dietary habits and ways governments can help, the second looks at what one can learn from wearing a CGM for 30 days, and the third celebrates the late Stephen Harrison while looking into the future of clinical trials and medical education.

00:06:12 - Global Think-Tank on SLD Roundtable, Part 3
Behavior consultant Dr. Kristina Curtis joins Jörn Schattenberg, Louise Campbell and Roger Green to discuss issues related to patient-centered care. This conversation starts by focusing on the unique challenges that come with changing dietary habits. Changing this behavior is so challenging because the issues are so complex. People lack education about healthy eating habits. Even when they do, the high-pressure world in which we live often makes it easier simply to offer children fast food. Even parents who know better might allow their children (or spouses, or selves) not to eat vegetables after a trying day. The panel proceeds to discuss steps politicians can take to encourage healthier living and lifestyles if they wish, and why some are easier to execute than others. Finally, the group shares why they felt "enlightened" when leaving the SLD, and perhaps a little less alone.

00:21:34 - Newsmaker: Fatty Liver Alliance President Mike Betel

This interview with Fatty Liver Alliance President Mike Betel focuses on Year 3 of his 30-day Glucose Challenge. Mike wears a continuous glucose monitor (CGM) for the entire month of July and provides daily videos on LinkedIn and the Fatty Liver Alliance website discussing what he learned. The first year was dedicated to teaching the impact of eating badly and the second year was similar, but less egregious. This year, Mike, who is pre-diabetic, set the goal of keeping his glucose in a "normal" range of 70-140 mg/dl. He did so successfully 97-98% of the time over the month, and discusses some of the tricks he learned that help keep glucose in range over that time (HINT: walking 10-15 minutes after meals helps a lot!). He also shares hints about how to look at overall weight (it's the fat that matters, not simple weight), why it is not healthy to believe you must finish every bite of food put in front of you, and how all this relates to sleep and overall health. He also provides seeds for thought about ways manufacturers and providers might educate patients effectively on these issues.

00:53:11 - Expert: Summit Clinical Research Chief Academic Officer Naim Alkhouri

This interview occurred in late April during our episode celebrating Stephen Harrison. Naim chose this interview to annouce that he was joining Summit as Chief Academic Officer. The first part of this discussion focuses on Stephen on two levels: the personal history between Naim and Stephen and the nature of the contributions Stephen has made to the science of MASH, and particularly clinical trial design. The second part of the interview discusses Naim's new role, the diffrent kinds of teaching, training and medical education he sees as pivotal to the future of MASLD and MASH therapies, and the other elements of his new role. While discuss the role, he shares several bright, challenging insights about when MASH-ville is heading.

01:15:09 - Conclusion

The business report discusses vacations on the SurfingMASH team, upcoming episodes, and grateful notes from Ukrainian listeners.