Planning to Adapt: Johan Ivari on Strategy, Narrative, and the Set-Based Approach
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Planning isn’t about precision—it’s about possibility.
In this episode, Mike Jones is joined by Johan Ivari—Swedish Armed Forces officer, lecturer at the Swedish Defence University, and author of A Set-Based Approach: Searching for the Problem–Solution Eclipse. Together, they explore how strategy and execution can remain viable in a world shaped by unpredictability and complexity.
Johan challenges the illusion of control, unpacks why detailed plans often collapse on contact with reality, and explains how the set-based approach protects adaptability by expanding options, not narrowing them. From mission command and viable systems to cognitive agency and feedback loops, this episode is a rich exploration of thinking, learning, and leading in real time.
🔍 In this episode:
- Why narrative—not metrics—should lead execution
- The danger of detailed plans and false certainty
- How viable systems enable distributed action and coherence
- Why leaders must protect their organisation’s capacity to act
- The value of affordances and ‘coarse’ planning
- Why set-based planning improves decision quality and learning
🎧 Keywords: Set-Based Planning, Viable Systems, Mission Command, Complexity, Strategy Execution, Feedback Loops, Agency, Command and Control, Adaptive Leadership
📘 Read Johan’s paper: A Set-based Approach
📬 Connect with Johan: LinkedIn
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Chapters
1. Introduction and Leadership and Command (00:00:00)
2. Understanding Command and Control (00:03:14)
3. The Importance of Adaptability in Leadership (00:05:22)
4. Embracing Uncertainty in Decision Making (00:07:55)
5. The Role of Metrics in Strategy (00:10:25)
6. The Set-Based Approach to Planning (00:13:10)
7. Empathy in Strategy Development (00:15:45)
8. The Viability of Systems in Leadership (00:18:21)
9. The Narrative in Leadership and Strategy (00:20:53)
10. Understanding Intent and Adaptability (00:27:53)
11. Set-Based Approach and Its Applications (00:30:23)
12. The Illusion of Control in Planning (00:33:50)
13. Agency and Decision-Making in Organisations (00:36:20)
14. Planning for Multiple Futures (00:39:23)
15. Feedback Loops and Communication (00:42:34)
16. The Importance of Coherence in Leadership (00:45:24)
17. Embracing Uncertainty and Continuous Learning (00:49:18)
18. Outro (00:53:06)
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