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Planning to Adapt: Johan Ivari on Strategy, Narrative, and the Set-Based Approach

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Planning isn’t about precision—it’s about possibility.

In this episode, Mike Jones is joined by Johan Ivari—Swedish Armed Forces officer, lecturer at the Swedish Defence University, and author of A Set-Based Approach: Searching for the Problem–Solution Eclipse. Together, they explore how strategy and execution can remain viable in a world shaped by unpredictability and complexity.

Johan challenges the illusion of control, unpacks why detailed plans often collapse on contact with reality, and explains how the set-based approach protects adaptability by expanding options, not narrowing them. From mission command and viable systems to cognitive agency and feedback loops, this episode is a rich exploration of thinking, learning, and leading in real time.

🔍 In this episode:

  • Why narrative—not metrics—should lead execution
  • The danger of detailed plans and false certainty
  • How viable systems enable distributed action and coherence
  • Why leaders must protect their organisation’s capacity to act
  • The value of affordances and ‘coarse’ planning
  • Why set-based planning improves decision quality and learning

🎧 Keywords: Set-Based Planning, Viable Systems, Mission Command, Complexity, Strategy Execution, Feedback Loops, Agency, Command and Control, Adaptive Leadership

📘 Read Johan’s paper: A Set-based Approach
📬 Connect with Johan: LinkedIn

Send Mike a Message

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🔗 Full episodes, show notes, and resources: https://www.lbiconsulting.com/strategymeetsreality-podcast

📺 Watch on YouTube → https://www.youtube.com/@StrategyMeetsReality
🎧 Listen on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and Buzzsprout

💬 Connect with host Mike Jones → https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-h-jones/

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Chapters

1. Introduction and Leadership and Command (00:00:00)

2. Understanding Command and Control (00:03:14)

3. The Importance of Adaptability in Leadership (00:05:22)

4. Embracing Uncertainty in Decision Making (00:07:55)

5. The Role of Metrics in Strategy (00:10:25)

6. The Set-Based Approach to Planning (00:13:10)

7. Empathy in Strategy Development (00:15:45)

8. The Viability of Systems in Leadership (00:18:21)

9. The Narrative in Leadership and Strategy (00:20:53)

10. Understanding Intent and Adaptability (00:27:53)

11. Set-Based Approach and Its Applications (00:30:23)

12. The Illusion of Control in Planning (00:33:50)

13. Agency and Decision-Making in Organisations (00:36:20)

14. Planning for Multiple Futures (00:39:23)

15. Feedback Loops and Communication (00:42:34)

16. The Importance of Coherence in Leadership (00:45:24)

17. Embracing Uncertainty and Continuous Learning (00:49:18)

18. Outro (00:53:06)

21 episodes

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Planning isn’t about precision—it’s about possibility.

In this episode, Mike Jones is joined by Johan Ivari—Swedish Armed Forces officer, lecturer at the Swedish Defence University, and author of A Set-Based Approach: Searching for the Problem–Solution Eclipse. Together, they explore how strategy and execution can remain viable in a world shaped by unpredictability and complexity.

Johan challenges the illusion of control, unpacks why detailed plans often collapse on contact with reality, and explains how the set-based approach protects adaptability by expanding options, not narrowing them. From mission command and viable systems to cognitive agency and feedback loops, this episode is a rich exploration of thinking, learning, and leading in real time.

🔍 In this episode:

  • Why narrative—not metrics—should lead execution
  • The danger of detailed plans and false certainty
  • How viable systems enable distributed action and coherence
  • Why leaders must protect their organisation’s capacity to act
  • The value of affordances and ‘coarse’ planning
  • Why set-based planning improves decision quality and learning

🎧 Keywords: Set-Based Planning, Viable Systems, Mission Command, Complexity, Strategy Execution, Feedback Loops, Agency, Command and Control, Adaptive Leadership

📘 Read Johan’s paper: A Set-based Approach
📬 Connect with Johan: LinkedIn

Send Mike a Message

👂 Enjoying the show?
Subscribe and leave a review on your favourite platform — it helps more people find the podcast.

🔗 Full episodes, show notes, and resources: https://www.lbiconsulting.com/strategymeetsreality-podcast

📺 Watch on YouTube → https://www.youtube.com/@StrategyMeetsReality
🎧 Listen on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and Buzzsprout

💬 Connect with host Mike Jones → https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-h-jones/

  continue reading

Chapters

1. Introduction and Leadership and Command (00:00:00)

2. Understanding Command and Control (00:03:14)

3. The Importance of Adaptability in Leadership (00:05:22)

4. Embracing Uncertainty in Decision Making (00:07:55)

5. The Role of Metrics in Strategy (00:10:25)

6. The Set-Based Approach to Planning (00:13:10)

7. Empathy in Strategy Development (00:15:45)

8. The Viability of Systems in Leadership (00:18:21)

9. The Narrative in Leadership and Strategy (00:20:53)

10. Understanding Intent and Adaptability (00:27:53)

11. Set-Based Approach and Its Applications (00:30:23)

12. The Illusion of Control in Planning (00:33:50)

13. Agency and Decision-Making in Organisations (00:36:20)

14. Planning for Multiple Futures (00:39:23)

15. Feedback Loops and Communication (00:42:34)

16. The Importance of Coherence in Leadership (00:45:24)

17. Embracing Uncertainty and Continuous Learning (00:49:18)

18. Outro (00:53:06)

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