We call them family—but the law still calls them property.
In this episode, animal-law mediator and advocate Suzana Gartner, author of A Voice for Animals, breaks down what “pets as property” means in real life—custody, inheritance, cruelty cases, and shelter outcomes—and how practical policy + community action can move us toward a true no-kill future. If you’ve ever felt overwhelmed by the shelter crisis or confused by the legal maze, this conversation turns compassion into clear next steps.

You’ll learn:

• Pets = property (for now): how that status affects court decisions, shelters, and everyday families

• What’s working (and where): best-interest standards, no-kill models, and high-impact local policies

• A-CAP, simply explained: Suzana’s “Acceptable Companion Animal Philosophy” to cap the killing and rally consensus

• Start today: low-lift actions—adopt, foster, volunteer, share, or push for policy—so your effort actually moves the needle

Guest
Suzana Gartner — animal-law mediator & advocate; author of A Voice for Animals.
Website: suzanagartner.com • Newsletter, articles, advocacy resources

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