In this episode of Stories for the Future, I’m joined by storyteller, game designer, and creative force Dain Saint — someone who doesn’t just talk about change, but invites people to practice it through immersive storytelling, collaborative world-building, and art.

We recorded this conversation a few months ago, but it feels even more relevant today. Especially in a time of political tension, uncertainty, and fear, we talk about how imagination, empathy, and interactive experiences can help us stay connected — and prepare us for the future we actually want to live in.

Dain also shares insights from his work in journalism, immersive theatre, and game design — including how changing what it means to “win” the game can fundamentally shift how we live and lead.

We talk about:

• What interactive storytelling really is — and why it matters
• The role of empathy in imagining better futures
• Practicing democracy through games (!)
• What it feels like to live through turbulent times in the US
• The difference between truth and honesty
• Why art, play, and participation are vital right now

Learn more about Dain’s work on his website.

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