Paul Sullivan is the founder of Company of Dads—a community for Lead Dads which he created to provide more support for Dads who are also the primary caregivers at home. He is also the best-selling author of two books: Clutch: Why Some People Excel Under Pressure and Others Don’t and The Thin Green Line: The Money Secrets of The Super Wealthy. He has been a journalist for over 25 years and wrote the Wealth Matters column for the NY Times, the Money Game column in GOLF Magazine and has appeared in Fortune, Money, Barron’s, The Boston Globe and Food & Wine. In addition to being an accomplished writer and founder he’s also a husband and the Lead Dad for three daughters. We discussed:

* The need for a community like Company of Dads

* What exactly is a Lead Dad and why is it important?

* Building work around family rather than the other way around

* The need for more fathers to lead open communication at home

* A simple system for figuring out equitable participation in household logistics

* How fathers can be more vocal about their roles as Lead Dads

* Championing policies in the workplace to support all parents

* Lessons from Clutch on how parents can perform in high-pressure situations

Where to find Paul Sullivan

* LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sullivanpaulj

* Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sullivanpaulj

* Company of Dads: https://thecompanyofdads.com

Where to find Adam Fishman

* FishmanAF Newsletter: www.FishmanAFNewsletter.com

* LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamjfishman/

* Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/startupdadpod/

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In this episode, we cover:

[2:27] Welcome Paul

[3:50] Company of Dads and being a Lead Dad

[17:21] Building working life around family

[23:42] Logistics of life

[27:16] Misconceptions of the Lead Dad

[30:48] Isolation as a Lead Dad

[37:53] Advice from Paul’s book, Clutch

[41:09] NYT column, Wealth Matters

[47:13] Relationship to his daughters

[51:47] Setting good examples around media consumption

[56:10] Where to find Paul

[56:49] Lightning round

[1:02:51] Thank you

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Show references:

Company of Dads on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thecompanyofdads

The Dad newsletter: https://thecompanyofdads.com/thedad/

Clutch: Excel Under Pressure by Paul Sullivan: https://www.amazon.com/Clutch-Excel-Pressure-Paul-Sullivan/dp/1591844290/

The Thin Green Line: The Money Secrets of the Super Wealthy by Paul Sullivan: https://www.amazon.com/Thin-Green-Line-Secrets-Wealthy/dp/1451687257/

NYT: https://www.nytimes.com/

Eve Rodsky: https://www.everodsky.com/

Tesla: https://www.tesla.com/

University of Chicago: https://www.uchicago.edu/en

Booth Business School: https://www.chicagobooth.edu/

Sierra Club: https://www.sierraclub.org/

David Booth: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_G._Booth

Najee Goode: https://www.nfl.com/players/najee-goode/

Philadelphia Eagles: https://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/

Tom Brady: https://www.nfl.com/players/tom-brady/

Everybody Loves Raymond: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0115167/

The Fast And The Furious: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0232500

Elon Musk:https://www.tesla.com/elon-musk

Pierre Omidyar: https://omidyar.com/omidyar_team/pierre-omidyar/

Qustodio: https://www.qustodio.com/en/

Mike Tyson:https://miketyson.com/

Jake Paul: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jake_Paul

E.T.: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083866/

Happy Gilmore: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0116483/

Stanford:https://www.stanford.edu/

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