In episode 220, Max chats with the AFL's Head of Officiating Stephen McBurney! We went deep on the laws of the game, umpire contact, holding the ball, and how to stay calm with 100,000 fans roaring behind you. Stephen shares how content he is with the current Brownlow Medal adjudication process, whether umpires could soon have access to stats, and how the interpretation of holding the ball has evolved this year - including whether the “shrug” could be deemed prior opportunity in 2026. He also gives fascinating insight into how the out-of-bounds rule impacts the ruck’s role in the game, and whether the ARC’s boundary line review system will carry over into 2026. Stephen takes us through his umpiring journey - from being mentored by John Beveridge to bouncing the ball in his first AFL match, and the greatest Grand Final he’s been part of. We unpack how umpires communicate in real time during matches, what changes he wants to see for greater safety, and how the AFL can maintain consistency across a full season. All this and much more in episode 220 of Sporting Max! www.instagram.com/sportingmax.podcast/