Welcome to ’So What?” with Michael and Trevor as they invites us on a journey of big ideas. Join them as they talk about their mission to dig into thought-provoking ideas through diverse experiences of wisdom and voices. They bring a spacious perspective, a heap of curiosity, and a deep desires to see big ideas actually ’matter’ and be embodied in real life. Let’s be real - ideas can be fascinating, however if big ideas don’t lead us to more love, more peace, and more beautiful connections in the world - ’so what!’ Thanks to Jim for production and Rebekah for the voice behind the scenes. This podcast is produced by McKillop; Living Sacred Relationships.