Here’s the thing: power has always been seen as masculine, and nurturing as feminine. But what if true leadership needs both?In this conversation, Nirupama Subramaniam, author of Powerful and The Nurturing Quotient, joins Subha and Hasita to talk about leadership, guilt, gender, and the courage it takes to claim your voice.She shares stories from her own nonlinear career, what stops women from feeling powerful, and why the next generation of leaders can’t rely on old-school command-and-control anymore.A deeply human episode for anyone figuring out how to grow without losing who they are. Expect stories of reinvention, the guilt women carry at work, why 95% of CEOs are still men, and how the next generation of leaders can balance ambition with self-awareness.Chapters:00:00 – Highlights01:56 – Her Nonlinear Career04:35 – Leaving Banking08:05 – Motherhood and Reinvention13:06 – Why Women Wait for Clarity16:00 – Birth of the Archetypes21:45 – The 4 Power Barriers25:59 – Girls and Leadership Hesitation27:02 – Nurturing as Leadership41:18 – Boardrooms and What’s Next45:21 – Read Watch Listen--------------------Small Talk: Work, Play, Build is the latest season of Small Talk. As a career podcast in its fifth year of production now, we look forward to having many conversations with you on what it means to live a life that feels true to each of us, both at work and outside of it. Subscribe to stay tuned when a new episode releases, every fortnight. Instagram @smalltalk_wpbWebsite http://www.smalltalkpod.comMedia enquiries [email protected] © Rainkraft Creative Solutions (OPC) Pvt. Ltd. No segment of this episode or its accessories may be reproduced for commercial use without explicit written permission from the creators.Small Talk: Work, Play, Build Subha Chandrasekaran Hasita Krishna---------------------