Andrew doubles MetaMonster customers in one week and is launching credit-based free trials! 🚀 Sean's still drowning in Miscreants growth (by the way Miscreants is hiring). Plus: LinkedIn strategy shifts, AI acquisition dynamics, and Sean just figured out what "I have to charge" actually means.

Links:

• Andrew’s Twitter: @AndrewAskins
• Andrew's website: https://www.andrewaskins.com/
• MetaMonster: https://metamonster.ai/
• Sean’s Twitter: @seanqsun
• Miscreants: http://miscreants.com/
• Margins: http://margins.so/
• Sean's website: https://seanqsun.com/

For more information about the podcast, check out https://www.smalleffortspod.com/.

Transcript:
00:00.83
Sean
whats up?

00:01.73
Andrew
Hey, we back.

00:01.83
Sean
Where are you?

00:03.17
Andrew
is this Is this the start of season? What season are we on? Season four?

00:06.65
Sean
Yeah, this is...

00:06.70
Andrew
This is season four, episode two.

00:07.29
Sean
this is

00:08.18
Andrew
Are we going to bury episode one forever and make it our new Lost Tapes? Or are we going to, do you want me to release it? Make a decision right now?

00:17.64
Sean
feel like... It seems like you want to bury it so we can bury it.

00:20.54
Andrew
Yeah, kind of.

00:21.32
Sean
Yeah. Okay.

00:22.37
Andrew
I feel like I just rambled for 30 minutes.

00:22.55
Sean
Yeah. We can bury it.

00:24.88
Andrew
And I was also like, You definitely caught me on the downturn of the startup roller coaster like mental cycle. And i'm I'm feeling more positive this week.

00:33.35
Sean
and

00:35.37
Andrew
So let's start on a good note.

00:35.99
Sean
Cool. There was no such thing as everyone. Cool. Done. Easy. Yeah. Great. How you doing? Where where are you? This is not the usual background.

00:45.64
Andrew
I am it no, no. I'm in Columbia, South Carolina, cat sitting for my parents. My parents are jet setting around Europe, living their retired life to the fullest.

00:52.21
Sean
Nice.

00:56.16
Sean
Cool.

00:57.40
Andrew
My German aunt is getting remarried this week.

01:01.31
Sean
Sweet.

01:01.43
Andrew
So there went to London and then Amsterdam and then Germany. And then they're going to Denmark on a joint honeymoon with my aunt and her new husband.

01:11.16
Sean
Okay.

01:12.08
Andrew
Yeah.

01:14.89
Sean
Joint honeymoon. Cool. Okay.

01:17.32
Andrew
yeah

01:17.56
Sean
I've never heard that term like used before, but that makes sense.

01:20.53
Andrew
It's not real. Like they, they actually got married a few months ago and this is just like the wedding celebration.

01:22.25
Sean
Cool.

01:25.98
Andrew
And so they just wanted to go on a weekend trip with my parents. And so I've been joking with my mom that she's going on Giese's honeymoon with her, but that's not really what's happening.

01:30.24
Sean
Cool.

01:39.13
Andrew
I'm cat sitting, hanging out with Ruthie.

01:38.82
Sean
Cool.

01:41.76
Sean
Nice. Nice, nice.

01:42.69
Andrew
Yeah. My cat's got it.

01:44.03
Sean
I'm going to a wedding.

01:45.87
Andrew
Huh?

01:46.59
Sean
I'm going to a wedding.

01:47.80
Andrew
Oh, fun.

01:49.23
Sean
Yeah, but tell about your cat first. What what about Ruthie?

01:51.29
Andrew
Oh, I was just going to say earlier this year, my mom got a, what she calls her resistance cat. cat's name is RBG, uh, and we call her Ruthie.

01:58.81
Sean
Oh, nice. Nice.

02:00.38
Andrew
So she's adorable. Big fan.

02:02.45
Sean
Cool. Oh, cool. Hope she also lives to like 90 something.

02:06.11
Andrew
I hope so too.

02:08.05
Sean
Yeah, i'm going I'm going to like my first wedding ever because it's not even a wedding.

02:12.32
Andrew
Oh my God. How is this your first wedding? I've, I feel like I've been going to weddings nonstop for the last 10 years.

02:21.16
Sean
maybe this is the start to that.

02:21.12
Andrew
Maybe this is like, maybe, yeah, we are different ages, which I forget often.

02:24.29
Sean
Yeah.

02:28.09
Andrew
I'm old and getting older every day.

02:29.42
Sean
Yeah.

02:32.45
Sean
You don't look a day over 40, my friend.

02:38.06
Andrew
i also wonder if it's partially a New York thing versus a like growing up in the Southeast thing. If my friends got married young.

02:42.58
Sean
No, just my asshole friends just don't like there's like fuck a wedding. We just got married and didn't tell you. And then and then like that's that's all.

02:50.31
Andrew
To be fair, that's kind of what I want to do. I think I i want to elope with just like parents and then and then throw a big ass party because I do not want to pay the wedding markup.

02:53.65
Sean
See. This is.

02:58.78
Sean
Nice.

03:01.40
Andrew
I'm not about that life.

03:01.77
Sean
Yeah, fair. I think um fair. I think um this, these friends, he's a summer camp friend from like high school and just always kept in touch for years.

03:09.81
Andrew
Oh, no way. That's cool.

03:12.25
Sean
loosely, loosely. They also got married in middle of COVID and they just never actually had like a wedding-esque party. So this isn't even, technically I've never been to it.

03:22.42
Sean
Well, think my cousin got married when I was really young. So I think I've been there, but outside of like, actually as a brain functioning adult, like I've never seen people consummate their marriage or whatever the that's not what that means.

03:36.78
Andrew
i Yeah, I don't think I have either.

03:38.47
Sean
as an Okay.

03:38.54
Andrew
i don't i don't think that's like a thing anymore, Sean.

03:39.62
Sean
Sorry.

03:42.08
Sean
Not what I'm, I've never seen people publicly like make vows to each other in the, in a wedding setting. Not consummate does not mean what I,

03:49.86
Andrew
Okay, fair.

03:51.64
Sean
thought of me you know what's crazy we're gonna go on a tangent really quickly guess what i just realized yesterday after like 18 years you know the song my milkshake brings on the boys of the yard okay this is the this is like

03:58.37
Andrew
What's that?

04:02.17
Andrew
Yep.

04:05.51
Andrew
Are you just now realizing that's about boobs?

04:08.60
Sean
no i'm just realizing that when she says i have to charge she meant i have to like charge you money ever since i was a kid ever since i was a kid like when i first heard that song

04:14.92
Andrew
Oh!

04:21.06
Sean
I thought she meant like, i don't know, I have to like charge the machine or I'm out of milkshake. I have to like recharge it. And I always thought that song made no fucking sense. But now it's trending because of the whole Cat's Eye Gap commercial.

04:34.45
Andrew
I have no idea what commercial you're talking about. And to be honest, have never heard that line or never noti...