Rex sits down with Fiddy — DeFi “trench warrior,” Curve and Lido contributor — to ask a simple but uncomfortable question: why do the vibes feel so bad this cycle?

They trace the arc from the 2020 DeFi summer through Do Kwon, FTX, and the meme-coin era, and talk about what happens when years of extraction, broken experiments, and aggressive speculation finally catch up with a still-nascent ecosystem. Along the way, they dig into how Twitter’s algorithm shift and the rise of easy online gambling have siphoned energy away from “builder crypto” toward pure conflict and get-rich-quick schemes.

From there, the conversation zooms out: institutions like Stripe and major banks are quietly building on crypto rails, often in ways that don’t yet feed value back to DeFi. Is that net-bullish, or does it threaten the credibly neutral, censorship-resistant core that drew so many to Ethereum in the first place? Fiddy shares his view on Ethereum as an “infinite garden,” the evolving role of the Ethereum Foundation, and why, despite ugly vibes and broken governance experiments, he’s still deeply optimistic about the long-term cultural and technical trajectory of the space.