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**SPECIAL** The Genius of the "AND" with Shaina Zavala | Part 3
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**Join us for a special summer series of conversations with Shaina and Piet about the genius of the "and." We are so excited to share this 4-part discussion with you AND for the launch of season 4 of Sidewalk Conversations this August! If you enjoy this episode and want to check out all of the things Piet is working on, head on over to the Piet Van Waarde channel on Youtube.**
Today, we explore how either-or thinking creates false dichotomies, particularly around diversity and merit, and how embracing the "and" allows for more nuanced understanding.
• Personal story about university chaplain experience with minority students feeling disconnected
• Resistance encountered when trying to understand different experiences
• How comfort in black-and-white thinking prevents us from facing harder truths
• The false perception that acknowledging differences creates division
• Benefits of seeking understanding across differences
• Applying "and" thinking to politics and other controversial topics
• Maintaining personal convictions while recognizing others' truths
Join us next episode as we continue this conversation, exploring how this approach affects the life of the church.
Chapters
1. Introducing controversial topic (00:00:00)
2. Personal university chaplain experience (00:00:50)
3. Comfort in black and white thinking (00:02:09)
4. Benefits of understanding different perspectives (00:03:41)
5. Applying this approach broadly (00:04:41)
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