In this episode, Elena sits down with Matt Gjertsen, founder of Better Everyday Studios and former SpaceX learning and development leader—who also happens to be an Air Force veteran and pilot. Together, they dive into the world of talent and leadership development, exploring what really makes effective training stick in corporate environments (and why most companies are still getting it wrong!). Matt shares his unique journey from being a space-obsessed kid, piloting refueling jets, to shaping learning cultures at some of the world’s most innovative companies. They discuss practical strategies for creating impactful training, why behavioral change—not just classroom learning—matters most, and the realities of shifting from high-level corporate roles to entrepreneurship. Whether you’re an HR/L&D pro, business leader, or someone dreaming about launching your own venture, this conversation is packed with actionable advice, honest insights, and a few fun stories from inside the cockpit. Don’t miss it!Time Stamps:00:00 Air Force Journey to Astronaut03:32 Competitive Peer Ranking Journey09:25 "From Air Force to SpaceX Success"12:25 Focus on Behavior, Not Outcomes14:50 Environmental Influence on Behavior18:07 Rethinking Training: Identifying Real Issues22:06 Building Client Relationships Strategically24:21 Leadership and Management: Contextual Actions27:12 Soft vs. Hard Skills Dilemma30:16 Delegating Authority as a Pilot35:35 Career Success vs. Personal Fulfillment38:17 Reevaluating Personal Values42:40 Connect on LinkedIn, Explore Better EverydayConnect with Matt on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthewgjertsen/Website: https://bettereverydaystudios.com/Follow Elena: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/elenaagaragimova/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elenaagaragimova/Website: https://elenaagar.com/Listen on:Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/shift-with-elena-agar/id1530850914Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5UKh6dWcuQwJlmAOqD8wijIf you like this video, please like, subscribe, comment, and share! Your support is extremely valued! #careercoaching #careertips #careerresilience #futureofwork #careerstrategy