What happens when you build a wildly successful global brand… only to realise it no longer fits your life?

In this raw and revealing episode, Lisa Jones sits down with entrepreneurial powerhouse Lisa Messenger to unpack the real story behind Collective Hub, including the rise, the burn-out, and the bold decision to burn it all down.

From publishing to personal growth, Lisa shares the messy middle most people never talk about, and why reinvention is a necessary (and liberating) part of long-term success.

The two Lisas dive deep into navigating adversity, the importance of anchoring your business to purpose rather than product, and how to recognise both the red flags and green lights of growth. With candid stories of personal pain, pivoting, and learning how to let go, this is a must-listen for any woman who’s ever wondered whether it’s time to do business differently.

Whether you're facing burnout, scaling fast, or just wondering what's next, this conversation is a masterclass in resilience, alignment, and starting over with intention.

What You’ll Learn:

✨ Why you need a mission that outlasts your product

✨ How Lisa built - and then walked away from - a global publishing empire

✨ The messy truth about burnout, scaling too fast, and cashflow chaos

✨ How to recognise when you're out of alignment (and what to do next)

✨ Why adversity can be your greatest teacher

✨ The difference between doing more… and doing what matters

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