That Wasn't The Plan A podcast for anyone whose life took a left turn when you were peacefully asleep.

Life doesn't come with a script—thank god, because ours would've been returned for rewrites.

Join co-hosts Emily White and Courtney Holland as they navigate the beautiful disasters, plot twists, and "well, that happened" moments that nobody warned you about. From friendship divorces that hurt worse than the romantic ones, to that time cancer crashed the party, or when your morning coffee kicked in during your morning commute (we've all been there... right?).

We're here to talk about the stuff that wasn't in your life plan: Getting sober. Couch-surfing at 35. Teaching Jazzercise in a thong leotard at 5 AM (Courtney looks great, by the way). Death showing up uninvited. Your career ghosting you.

This isn't toxic positivity or "everything happens for a reason" BS.
Sometimes life simply sucks, and we're here to laugh about it together—because crying alone in your car gets old. Each episode brings you real stories, terrible advice, excellent commiseration, and the reminder that if your life feels like a dumpster fire, at least you're in good company.

Perfect for: Anyone who's had to embrace the suck.

Warning: May cause unexpected feelings, snort-laughing, and the overwhelming urge to text us your own "that wasn't the plan" story.

New episodes drop weekly. Follow us wherever you get your podcasts, because we all need witnesses to this beautiful mess.

Remember: Just because it wasn't the plan doesn't mean it wasn't supposed to happen.