Welcome back to Bad Words Good Buildings, hosted by Leah Solk and Yuliya Ilizarov. This is a podcast where two smart women shoot the shit about the design and construction industry.

This is Part 2 of two episodes that will speak to the financial side of design and construction. We share some of our pet peeves with design magazines in the way they give expectations on project costs, and how owners can think critically about the information presented. We continue to get into soft costs and the devaluation of labor as a reflection of American societal values.

Read an interview with the architect who built our "Good Building" this week. He thinks it was a failure; we respectfully disagree.

Leah Solk is an architect and principal of Solk Architecture

Yuliya Ilizarov is an architect and builder, and founder and partner of Coburn Construction Management

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PS - We have noticed that whoever is better caffeinated talks much more during our recordings. Please bear with us while we navigate that balance this season.