This week, Patti and Meghan are admitting the thing most of us won't say out loud… we are way too attached to our phones. Between the studio emails, family group texts, and "just one more scroll" before bed, being present feels like a full-time job.

In this real, funny, and sometimes painfully honest chat, they unpack how our devices are quietly stealing our attention, how our kids are mirroring our habits, and what it means to rebuild genuine connection — one unplugged moment at a time.

In this episode:

• The morning doom-scroll (and the fuzzy-socks confession)

• The "notification personality test" — are you a zero inboxer or a 6,000+ unread kinda gal?

• How our kids are watching our screen habits closer than we think

• The school no-phone revolution (and why it's both awkward and amazing)

• Raising phone-smart, kind humans in a tech-heavy world

• The "red light rule" for car chats and screen-free rituals that actually work

• Why the goal isn't no screens… it's more presence

🎧 Listen in and share your screen-free ritual — tag @nobrasrequiredpod and tell us what's working for you. Let's make being present the new flex.