In this heartfelt conversation, Julie Ann sits down with Jennifer Nagel, counsellor, international facilitator, and host of Magic in the Muck: A Soul’s Compass for Change. Together they explore how life’s unexpected storms — both literal and metaphorical — can dismantle carefully laid plans and, at the same time, open portals to deeper wisdom, resilience, and new beginnings. From a tropical storm that shifted the foundation of her retreat space in Mexico to the greater theme of navigating chaos and transformation, Julie and Jennifer share how we can find meaning, healing, and even magic when life feels most uncertain.

Key Takeaways

• How sudden upheavals — like a storm or a collapsed retreat plan — can serve as “foreign elements” that initiate transformation.
• Why chaos, though uncomfortable, is an essential stage on the path of change and growth.
• The role of inner resources and soul-aligned practices in helping us find stability when the ground feels like it’s shifting beneath us.
• The importance of flexibility, creativity, and trust when vision meets disruption.
• How our personal stories, even the messy ones, can become portals to healing, connection, and collective wisdom.

Jennifer Nagel is a soul-centered counsellor, international facilitator, and best-selling author who has spent over two decades helping people navigate chaos, reconnect with their inner wisdom, and create meaningful, authentic lives. Deeply rooted in the Satir Model and experiential approaches to transformation, Jennifer brings a grounded presence, sharp insight, and a deep trust in the resources of the human spirit.

Her work spans continents and cultures — she has led programs and trainings in Canada, China, Kenya, Thailand, and Mexico, and currently serves as Director of Trainer Development with the Satir Institute of the Pacific. She is also senior faculty with the Banmen Satir China Management Centre.

Jennifer is the author of Magic in the Muck: Finding Grace in Chaos, co-author of Virginia Satir’s Evolving Legacy, and founder and co-author of the collaborative books Therapists Are Human Too and The Healing Journey to Authenticity, created through book-writing retreats she co-facilitated in Mexico.

Through her podcast, Magic in the Muck: A Soul’s Compass for Change, Jennifer offers honest, embodied conversations on healing, growth, and the soul’s journey — inviting you to navigate uncertainty with strength, purpose, and presence.

Learn more: http://www.jennifernagelcounselling.com

Meet the Host: Julie Ann

Julie Ann is a publishing oracle and storytelling midwife who helps soul-led leaders birth books that awaken, heal, and transform.

With over 17 years in the publishing industry, she has guided more than 300 authors to write and publish nonfiction works that shift paradigms and reclaim truth. She is the founder of Influence Publishing, now evolved into The House of Story Medicine — Her gift is sacred listening — not just to words, but to what lives beneath them. She perceives the deeper current beneath your story, attuned to the moments where your voice trembles with truth. She is the eye of soul — the one who sees the unseen, holds the unspoken, and midwifes your message into clarity

Julie Ann is the host of the podcast Your Story is Your Portal, a sacred container for storytellers, seekers, and soul-led leaders ready to speak the story they were born to tell.

These are not interviews. These are activations.

Each episode is a portal — a moment of recognition, a mirror of becoming, a reclamation of voice and Soul Purpose.

Her TEDx talk has reached over 100,000 viewers, and she’s been featured on international television, radio, and in major press for her visionary work in authorship, voice activation, and transformational publishing.

She is also the author of Around the World in Seven Years, a bestselling memoir chronicling her global pilgrimage of personal awakening and soul-led leadership.

Connect with the Host:

Website: www.influencepublishing.com/

Facebook: facebook.com/InfluencePublishing

LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/julieannpv

Instagram: instagram.com/julieinspires

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