After a long break, Gene and Derek are back behind the mics—and we’re diving headfirst into IDLES’ Crawler, an album that pulls no punches and hits even harder after time away. But before the deep dive begins, we unpack the strangeness of returning to the show, what it means to want something when life doesn’t care, and the quiet strength in simply showing up again.

Also on the table: the absurd debate over the plural of “lamb,” and the true meaning of a “rack of lamb,” a fake but oddly compelling story about Gene’s cousin Wes, and most importantly, Derek's hesitant but triumphant rediscovery of the podcasting groove.

Whether you’re here for the music talk or just missed hearing the two of us ramble with (little) purpose—you’re home.