Software engineer and founder Ruben Fiszel joins Glen on Data and Confused to unpack how his open-source platform Windmill is redefining what “job orchestration” means for modern development.

From his early days at Palantir to building a Rust-based, language-agnostic orchestration engine, Ruben shares how Windmill empowers developers to run, automate, and scale complex workflows—without being locked into one tool, one language, or one cloud.

Together, they dive into why traditional workflow tools like Airflow and Temporal miss the mark, how Windmill’s zero-trust architecture strengthens security and compliance, and what it takes to balance developer experience with enterprise reliability. Ruben also explains why the rise of AI isn’t about removing code entirely, but about ushering in what he calls “Programming 2.0”—a new era of smarter, faster, and more flexible software creation.

Whether you’re building distributed systems, experimenting with AI-driven workflows, or just curious about where automation and code intersect, this episode explores the evolving landscape of modern software orchestration and the future of development itself.

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