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20250608 - ‘Reasoning’ AIs fail hard if they actually have to think

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Sources:

The Illusion of Thinking: Understanding the Strengths and Limitations of Reasoning Models via the Lens of Problem Complexity (PDF) https://ml-site.cdn-apple.com/papers/the-illusion-of-thinking.pdf

GSM-Symbolic: Understanding the Limitations of Mathematical Reasoning in Large Language Models (PDF) https://arxiv.org/pdf/2410.05229

Stop Anthropomorphizing Intermediate Tokens As Reasoning/Thinking Traces! (PDF) https://arxiv.org/pdf/2504.09762

Previously on Pivot to AI:

LLMs can solve any word problem! As long as they can crib the answer https://pivot-to-ai.com/2024/07/06/llms-can-solve-any-word-problem-as-long-as-they-can-crib-the-answer/

AI benchmarks are self-promoting trash — but regulators keep using them https://pivot-to-ai.com/2025/02/25/ai-benchmarks-are-self-promoting-trash-but-regulators-keep-using-them/

‘Reasoning’ AI is LYING to you! — or maybe it’s just hallucinating again https://pivot-to-ai.com/2025/04/18/reasoning-ai-is-lying-to-you-or-maybe-its-just-hallucinating-again/

video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNT0LcCqtss&list=UU9rJrMVgcXTfa8xuMnbhAEA

Full Pivot to AI playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=UU9rJrMVgcXTfa8xuMnbhAEA

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74 episodes

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Manage episode 487578702 series 3662020
Content provided by David Gerard. All podcast content including episodes, graphics, and podcast descriptions are uploaded and provided directly by David Gerard or their podcast platform partner. If you believe someone is using your copyrighted work without your permission, you can follow the process outlined here https://podcastplayer.com/legal.

Anything outside their training.

Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/davidgerard

Ko-Fi: https://ko-fi.com/A1529D5

Buy me nice things: https://www.amazon.co.uk/hz/wishlist/ls/3Q8VZW46J6DM6

Get an extremely cool Pivot to AI shirt or mug: https://pivot-to-ai.redbubble.com

Sources:

The Illusion of Thinking: Understanding the Strengths and Limitations of Reasoning Models via the Lens of Problem Complexity (PDF) https://ml-site.cdn-apple.com/papers/the-illusion-of-thinking.pdf

GSM-Symbolic: Understanding the Limitations of Mathematical Reasoning in Large Language Models (PDF) https://arxiv.org/pdf/2410.05229

Stop Anthropomorphizing Intermediate Tokens As Reasoning/Thinking Traces! (PDF) https://arxiv.org/pdf/2504.09762

Previously on Pivot to AI:

LLMs can solve any word problem! As long as they can crib the answer https://pivot-to-ai.com/2024/07/06/llms-can-solve-any-word-problem-as-long-as-they-can-crib-the-answer/

AI benchmarks are self-promoting trash — but regulators keep using them https://pivot-to-ai.com/2025/02/25/ai-benchmarks-are-self-promoting-trash-but-regulators-keep-using-them/

‘Reasoning’ AI is LYING to you! — or maybe it’s just hallucinating again https://pivot-to-ai.com/2025/04/18/reasoning-ai-is-lying-to-you-or-maybe-its-just-hallucinating-again/

video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNT0LcCqtss&list=UU9rJrMVgcXTfa8xuMnbhAEA

Full Pivot to AI playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=UU9rJrMVgcXTfa8xuMnbhAEA

  continue reading

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