Join me on this transformative episode of Compromised to Alchemized as I sit down with Pamela Curlee, co-founder of The Masgutova Foundation.

Pamela and I first connected in March 2025 at my Floor of the Mouth training in Denver, Colorado. In our conversation, we delve into the fascinating world of primitive reflexes and their profound impact on our well-being. Pamela shares her personal journey and professional expertise, shedding light on a topic that is so crucial for understanding neurodevelopmental health.

The Masgutova Foundation is dedicated to transforming the lives of individuals with neurodevelopmental challenges through the application of the Masgutova Method and educational programs. Their vision is to provide holistic support and resources, making a positive impact and fostering a supportive community. Their core values are centered on compassion, innovation, and empowerment, with three key pillars: community support, education, and research.

In this episode, we discuss:

• [08:45] The history of Svetlana Masgutova and the foundational concepts behind primitive reflexes.
• [18:50] Pamela’s personal story of how she discovered primitive reflexes and the path that led her to co-found The Masgutova Foundation.
• [22:52] The versatility and benefits of the MNRI (Masgutova Neurosensorimotor Reflex Integration) method across various fields of healing.
• [26:28] Pamela's unique insights into how she stays engaged and passionate about her work, even in challenging moments.
• [29:10] Pamela’s candid experience with depression and her journey through it.
• [32:15] Pamela's meditation practices and her philosophy of "always marveling at the world."
• [36:43] A powerful example of the hand-supporting reflex.
• [41:19] How Pamela listens to her intuition in her work and practical tips for those who have trouble slowing down.
• [52:00] The importance of cultivating the right mindset for learning and healing.
• [55:00] Pamela’s key takeaways from participating in my Floor of the Mouth training.
• [59:30] Pamela's personal legend and her inspiring purpose.
• [1:05:00] Pamela reflecting on her depression.

• The Masgutova Foundation: Learn more about their mission and programs.
• Svetlana Masgutova: The founder of the Masgutova Method.
• Josh Madsen, Holly, and Brooke: Thank you for your wonderful work!

Find out more about The Masgutova Foundation:

• Websites: The Masgutova Foundation The Masgutova Method
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