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In episode 24, we are swimming in the sacred wisdom of the psychedelic underground with author, Rachel Harris, PhD as our guide. Rachel is a psychologist, researcher, and author of "Listening to Ayahuasca" and "Swimming in the Sacred: Wisdom from the Psychedelic Underground."

In this episode:

• Rachel discusses her formative years at the Esalen Institute in the late 1960s, reflecting on the wild, unstructured, and sometimes dangerous environment that shaped her therapeutic roots.
• We explore Rachel’s decades-long relationship with ayahuasca, including her personal relationship with the plant spirit. She also talks about her experiences with other psychedelics, and the importance of spiritual guidance and integration.
• Rachel explains the inspiration behind her books, especially "Swimming in the Sacred," which features interviews with 18 underground female guides—most with well over 20 years of experience.
• We discuss the unique wisdom and challenges of the feminine in psychedelic work, the importance of apprenticeship, and what’s missing from modern psychedelic training programs.
• Rachel discusses the role of surrender, trust, and flexibility in both psychedelic journeys and life itself, including how these lessons prepare us for mortality.

Learn More About Rachel Harris PhD

· https://www.swimminginthesacred.com

· https://www.listeningtoayahuasca.com

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