What if chasing money isn’t the path to happiness — but understanding why we chase it is?

In this episode of Power & Impact, I sit down with Jeff Kreisler, a Princeton-educated lawyer-turned-comedian who is now head of behavioral science at JPMorgan Chase. From the courtroom to the comedy stage, Jeff has built a career that bridges insight and laughter, showing us that understanding people is far more valuable than understanding numbers.

During our conversation, we discussed why behavioral science reveals how emotions drive financial choices, the role of relationships and connection in lasting fulfillment, and why “forgetting money” might just be the smartest financial move you should remember.

Jeff’s story is a reminder that the real currency of life isn’t cash but connection, curiosity, and courage.