In this episode, Travis and Jess talk about the themes of wonder, curiosity, and creativity. They ask questions like: "Where does our childlike wonder go?" and "How can boredom lead to curiosity?" They also discuss how God can sometimes dramatically show up in our moments of creativity and curiosity and spark something special.

You'll also hear about how they met on a bizarre online dating site where Travis posted a picture of himself riding a llama. They also talk about how God led them into the world of foster care and adoption through an unlikely messenger. You'll hear a story about Travis' brother Jeremy (who suffered a traumatic brain injury) and how a powerfully creative idea led to Jeremy creating art. This and much more!

Mentioned in the podcast:

Travis' brother Jeremy suffered a devastating traumatic brain injury in 2009. Check out his story and website:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=END1TnoYh3E&t=4s

https://www.joyindespair.com/

*correction: Travis has only lived in roughly 6 states.

Additional resources from Travis and Jess:

Guided Pace website: resources for coaching, soul care, and spiritual retreat offerings

Travis' books:

Shiny Eyes: Seeing Better Through the Lenses of Joy, Tears, Beauty, and Hope

Redemption's Echo: Living in the Reflection of God's Grace