Healing the Leader Within: Brent Perkins on Energy, Awareness, and Capacity

Welcome back to Beyond the Pills, where we explore the edges of true healing—where ancient wisdom meets modern science, and where transformation begins from the inside out. I'm your host, Josh Rimany.

Today’s guest isn’t just a leadership expert or bestselling author—he’s been one of my own coaches, someone who’s walked with me through some of my most profound inner shifts, both professionally and personally. It’s an honor to welcome Brent Perkins to the show.

Brent is a former multi–8-figure CEO turned leadership coach who is obsessed with capacity—that inner operating system that drives everything else in life and leadership. He’s the founder of 3xBOLD and the author of Papercuts: The Art of Self-Delusion, a powerful and vulnerable work about the subtle wounds we carry in the pursuit of success.

Through his work, Brent helps growth-minded entrepreneurs and elite coaches transmute stress into energy, translating neuroscience and somatics into boardroom results and bedroom presence. He’s also a board member of Front Row Dads, and his latest venture—CAPACITY—is a curated leadership collective focused on expanding impact at work and at home.

In this episode, we’re going to explore the deep work behind leadership, the energy quadrants, the three currencies of capacity, and what it looks like to shift the culture of leadership—from burnout and disconnection, to one where we all rise together. This is going to be a powerful and deeply personal conversation."

❓ Interview Questions

Part 1: Personal Journey and Papercuts

1. Brent, your book Papercuts delves into the subtle wounds we often overlook. Can you share what inspired you to write this book and how it reflects your personal journey?
2. You transitioned from a high-powered corporate role to a path of personal growth and leadership transformation. What was the pivotal moment that led you to this change?
3. In Papercuts, you discuss the concept of self-delusion. How can recognizing our own self-delusions serve as a catalyst for healing and growth?

Part 2: The Capacity Framework

1. Your latest project, Capacity, introduces a new framework for leadership. Can you explain the core principles of this framework and how it differs from traditional leadership models?
2. You mention the 'energy quadrants' in the Capacity framework. What are these quadrants, and how can understanding them enhance our leadership and personal effectiveness?
3. The framework also talks about the 'three currencies of capacity.' Could you elaborate on what these currencies are and their significance in sustainable leadership?

Part 3: Shared Journey and Collective Growth

1. Brent, you've been a significant part of my own healing and growth journey. From your perspective, how does holding space for others contribute to both personal and collective transformation?
2. Our shared mission is to shift the culture of leadership towards authenticity and collective well-being. How do you envision this shift impacting organizations and communities?
3. For listeners who are leaders or aspiring to lead, what practical steps can they take to begin aligning their leadership with the principles you've discussed?

🔗 Links:

• Website: 3xBOLD
• Book: Papercuts: The Art of Self-Delusion
• LinkedIn: Brent Perkins