We all know this business is built on relationships. But with so much emerging tech and shiny new tools, how do we make sure the human part doesn’t get lost?

In this episode, I had the chance to sit down with someone who genuinely feels like a mogul—Jake Vermillion. He’s sharp, forward-thinking, and we unpacked some powerful conversations: Are we automating ourselves out of real connection? How should AI be used in prospecting? And what’s behind the growing lack of intentionality in the space?

If delivering a powerful, thoughtful consumer experience actually matters to you—this episode is full of gut checks that might just make you pause and rethink your approach.

Connect with Jake:

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jakebvermillion/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jakevermillion/

Website Links: https://mortgagechampions.com/

Connect with Michelle:

Website: https://bermanmediapd.com/

Instagram @BermanMediaSocial

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