In this episode, the host sits down with Karl, who has a long and illustrious connection to the outdoors and rock climbing. Karl shares his background, starting rock climbing at a young age and eventually starting their own company, Climb Tech. Karl discusses how he brought climbing equipment into the industrial safety market, revolutionizing the industry. I expressed my surprise that climbing equipment had a place in industrial safety. Karl invented the removable bolt led to collaborations with a large concrete company for use in the construction industry. Overall, this episode explores the intersection of rock climbing and industrial safety, highlighting Karl's innovative contributions to both fields.