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Inclusive Teaming and the Next Frontier of Leadership

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We trace why “bring your whole self to work” fell flat, how subtle detractor patterns (ignoring, courtesy code switching, email habits) silently erode trust, and why inclusion is less about demographics and more about everyday micro-behaviors. Kimberly makes it real: when team members only get replies if they CC the boss, people stop trying. When leaders say they value input but don’t create safety, trust collapses.

The surprise? Homogeneous teams with strong inclusion behaviors can outperform diverse ones without them. Inclusion isn’t about who’s at the table—it’s whether voices matter once they’re there.

I push back on the myth of “leader angst”: making things better is the leader’s job. Kimberly adds the missing truth: the biggest cost isn’t money or time—it’s the vulnerability of having real conversations with your team.

This isn’t theory. It’s leadership on the line. And it’s the difference between wasting hours in ignored emails versus amplifying effectiveness by 30% with no extra cost—just courage.

TL;DR

* Inclusion ≠ diversity quotas—it’s behaviors that create belonging.

* Five detractor patterns silently kill inclusion (ignoring, courtesy code switching, etc.).

* Leaders can’t outsource inclusion—HR can’t carry this, only teams can.

* Effectiveness jumps when small friction points (like ignored emails) get fixed.

* The real cost: leaders must get vulnerable, confront team dynamics, and stay accountable.

Memorable lines “No one wakes up in the morning saying, ‘I hope I’m excluded today.’” “Courtesy code switching sounds respectful—but it actually silences voices.” “Making things better is literally the leader’s job. Otherwise, a bot could replace you.” “Inclusion isn’t a social program—it’s how you answer your team’s emails.”

Guest Kimberly Lewis Parsons — Founder & CEO of Bamboo Teaming; expert in inclusive teaming, executive team coaching, and shifting leaders from ineffective habits to productive collaboration. 🔗 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kimberleylewisparsons/

Why this matters Inclusion isn’t about slogans—it’s about daily behavior. If leaders can’t create spaces where voices matter, teams lose trust, speed, and effectiveness. The next frontier of inclusion is practical: leaders modeling the behaviors that turn effort into impact.

Call to Action

If this conversation lit something up for you, don’t just let it fade. Come join me inside the Second Life Leader community on Skool. That’s where I share the frameworks, field reports, and real stories of reinvention that don’t make it into the podcast. You’ll connect with other professionals who are actively rebuilding and leading with clarity. The link is in the show notes—step inside and start building your Second Life today.

https://secondlifeleader.com

This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.dougutberg.com

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We trace why “bring your whole self to work” fell flat, how subtle detractor patterns (ignoring, courtesy code switching, email habits) silently erode trust, and why inclusion is less about demographics and more about everyday micro-behaviors. Kimberly makes it real: when team members only get replies if they CC the boss, people stop trying. When leaders say they value input but don’t create safety, trust collapses.

The surprise? Homogeneous teams with strong inclusion behaviors can outperform diverse ones without them. Inclusion isn’t about who’s at the table—it’s whether voices matter once they’re there.

I push back on the myth of “leader angst”: making things better is the leader’s job. Kimberly adds the missing truth: the biggest cost isn’t money or time—it’s the vulnerability of having real conversations with your team.

This isn’t theory. It’s leadership on the line. And it’s the difference between wasting hours in ignored emails versus amplifying effectiveness by 30% with no extra cost—just courage.

TL;DR

* Inclusion ≠ diversity quotas—it’s behaviors that create belonging.

* Five detractor patterns silently kill inclusion (ignoring, courtesy code switching, etc.).

* Leaders can’t outsource inclusion—HR can’t carry this, only teams can.

* Effectiveness jumps when small friction points (like ignored emails) get fixed.

* The real cost: leaders must get vulnerable, confront team dynamics, and stay accountable.

Memorable lines “No one wakes up in the morning saying, ‘I hope I’m excluded today.’” “Courtesy code switching sounds respectful—but it actually silences voices.” “Making things better is literally the leader’s job. Otherwise, a bot could replace you.” “Inclusion isn’t a social program—it’s how you answer your team’s emails.”

Guest Kimberly Lewis Parsons — Founder & CEO of Bamboo Teaming; expert in inclusive teaming, executive team coaching, and shifting leaders from ineffective habits to productive collaboration. 🔗 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kimberleylewisparsons/

Why this matters Inclusion isn’t about slogans—it’s about daily behavior. If leaders can’t create spaces where voices matter, teams lose trust, speed, and effectiveness. The next frontier of inclusion is practical: leaders modeling the behaviors that turn effort into impact.

Call to Action

If this conversation lit something up for you, don’t just let it fade. Come join me inside the Second Life Leader community on Skool. That’s where I share the frameworks, field reports, and real stories of reinvention that don’t make it into the podcast. You’ll connect with other professionals who are actively rebuilding and leading with clarity. The link is in the show notes—step inside and start building your Second Life today.

https://secondlifeleader.com

This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.dougutberg.com

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