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Mahmoud v. Taylor | Case No. 24-297 | Date Argued: 4/22/25

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Respondent Montgomery County Board of Education requires elementary school teachers to read their students storybooks celebrating gender transitions, Pride parades, and same-sex playground romance. The storybooks were chosen to disrupt "cisnormativity" and "either/or thinking" among students. The Board's own principals objected that the curriculum was "not appropriate for the intended age group," presented gender ideology as "fact," "sham[ed]" students with contrary opinions, and was "dismissive of religious beliefs." The Board initially allowed parents to opt their kids out- but then reversed course, saying that no opt-outs would be permitted and that parents would not even be notified when the storybooks were read.

Petitioners filed suit, not challenging the curriculum, but arguing that compelling their elementary-age children to participate in instruction contrary to their parents' religious convictions violated the Free Exercise Clause. Construing Wisconsin v. Yoder, the Fourth Circuit found no free-exercise burden because no one was forced "to change their religious beliefs or conduct."

The question presented is: Do public schools burden parents' religious exercise when they compel elementary school children to participate in instruction on gender and sexuality against their parents' religious convictions and with-out notice or opportunity to opt out?

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00:00 Introduction

00:05 Petitioner Opening Statement

02:06 Petitioner Free for All Questions Begin

18:38 Petitioner Sequential Questions Begin

53:39 Petitioner Questions End, Government Opening Statement

54:43 Government Free for All Questions Begin

1:04:21 Government Sequential Questions Begin

01:22:12 Government Questions End, Respondent Opening Statement

01:24:02 Respondent Free for All Questions Begin

01:52:42 Respondent Sequential Questions Begin

2:25:55 Respondent Questions End, Petitioner Rebuttal Begins

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Respondent Montgomery County Board of Education requires elementary school teachers to read their students storybooks celebrating gender transitions, Pride parades, and same-sex playground romance. The storybooks were chosen to disrupt "cisnormativity" and "either/or thinking" among students. The Board's own principals objected that the curriculum was "not appropriate for the intended age group," presented gender ideology as "fact," "sham[ed]" students with contrary opinions, and was "dismissive of religious beliefs." The Board initially allowed parents to opt their kids out- but then reversed course, saying that no opt-outs would be permitted and that parents would not even be notified when the storybooks were read.

Petitioners filed suit, not challenging the curriculum, but arguing that compelling their elementary-age children to participate in instruction contrary to their parents' religious convictions violated the Free Exercise Clause. Construing Wisconsin v. Yoder, the Fourth Circuit found no free-exercise burden because no one was forced "to change their religious beliefs or conduct."

The question presented is: Do public schools burden parents' religious exercise when they compel elementary school children to participate in instruction on gender and sexuality against their parents' religious convictions and with-out notice or opportunity to opt out?

Timestamp

00:00 Introduction

00:05 Petitioner Opening Statement

02:06 Petitioner Free for All Questions Begin

18:38 Petitioner Sequential Questions Begin

53:39 Petitioner Questions End, Government Opening Statement

54:43 Government Free for All Questions Begin

1:04:21 Government Sequential Questions Begin

01:22:12 Government Questions End, Respondent Opening Statement

01:24:02 Respondent Free for All Questions Begin

01:52:42 Respondent Sequential Questions Begin

2:25:55 Respondent Questions End, Petitioner Rebuttal Begins

  continue reading

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