In this conversation, Alisyn Camerota and Dave Briggs engage with Oren Cass, chief economist at American Compass, to discuss the complexities of tariffs and their impact on the U.S. economy. They explore the historical context of trade policies, the importance of certainty in economic planning, and the consequences of free trade agreements. Cass critiques the current economic metrics used to measure success, emphasizing the need to focus on the well-being of the average worker. The discussion also touches on global reactions to U.S. trade policies and the challenges faced by small businesses in navigating economic disruption. In this conversation, Oren Cass discusses the transition to a new economic landscape, focusing on the challenges and opportunities in American manufacturing, the impact of AI on jobs, and the role of universities in industry. He emphasizes the need for rebuilding supply chains and expertise, while also addressing the political dynamics that influence these changes. Cass provides a perspective on finding sanity amidst the turbulence of current events, advocating for a more thoughtful approach to economic and institutional reform.

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