In this episode of Said in Concrete, host Estelle Clapham explores the powerful connection between fresh perspectives and seasoned expertise in the world of engineering.

Echo Wang, a senior professional at NTRO’s Sustainability & Material Performance team, shares her experience transitioning from academia to industry, where she’s driving innovations in low-carbon concrete and sustainable infrastructure.

Alongside her is Professor Shan Kumar, former National President of the Concrete Institute of Australia, who brings over 40 years of experience balancing groundbreaking industry projects—like Melbourne’s Eureka Tower—with a passion for mentoring the next generation of engineers.

Together, they discuss how collaboration across generations, the synergy between research and practice, and a shared love for innovation are shaping the future of concrete. This is part one of a special two-part conversation—stay tuned!