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In this powerful and vulnerable joint episode, Sheldon Primus sits down with Dr. Jay Allen—author of the Signal Transmission trilogy—for a deep conversation on the intersection of mental health, organizational systems, and safety. From system-induced burnout to suicide in construction, they expose the mental toll behind the clipboard.

This is more than a safety episode—it’s a raw, necessary reminder that behind every risk matrix is a human life. Topics include:

• Suicide prevention and stigma in the workplace
• Psychological safety and ISO 45003
• The truth behind performance improvement plans
• Music, trauma, and tattoos as storytelling
• Systemic pressure, empathy, and when it’s time to leave a job

You’ll laugh, reflect, and maybe tear up. This one stays with you.