In this episode of Risk Is Our Business, Captain Michael Rasmussen beams aboard Ernest Legrand, CEO, technologist, and author of Guardians of Uncertainty: The Making of Influential Risk Managers in the Modern World, to explore what it really means to lead through volatility.

Drawing on lessons from his book and decades of experience across insurance, AI, and geospatial technology, Ernest discusses how elite risk managers transform uncertainty into strategy. Together, they chart the evolution of risk leadership, from compliance and insurance frameworks to dynamic decision-making built on data, foresight, and empathy.

From the human side of decision-making to the architecture of trust, Ernest shares lessons from the world’s top risk leaders, those who turn unpredictability into opportunity, and governance into a living, adaptive system.

For executives, risk professionals, and board leaders alike, this episode offers a reminder that uncertainty isn’t a void to avoid, it’s the terrain of leadership itself.