Risk management isn't all crunchy and rigid - GRC teams and individuals deal with several professional difficulties, fears, and uncertainties that impact their risk decisions. But what is being done about it?
Oftentimes, GRC professionals on the crunchy side have to carry out softer tasks that require things like behavior changes across teams, which in turn require steps to be taken. What does the bridge between this gap look like?
Join us as we learn about what the soft and squishy side of GRC entails with Jason and also understand the impact his organization - kinkou.org has been having on bringing this soft side to a new light.
In this episode, Jason offers practical insights highlighting the importance of skills like communication and relationship-building in strengthening risk management. Tune in now!
About Jason
Joining us on the eighth episode of Risk Grustlers is Jason Leuenberger, a Leadership and Team Coach whose journey in GRC speaks for itself. Jason has been immersed in the crunchy approach towards GRC for the past 20 years, deep into technical domains, and now he’s sharing why the softer side of GRC may be the hidden gold mine no one’s paying attention to.
With over twenty years of experience in the industry, Jason is the perfect guide to help you master the often-overlooked softer side of GRC.
You can reach out to Jason directly at [email protected] to learn more about his services.
Highlights from the episode

• Demystifying what the soft and squishy side of GRC entails
• Understanding the difference between buy-in and weigh-in for expanding
• Bridging the gap between crunchy GRC side and softer GRC side

Quotes
“The human side of risk is what I like to call the softer side. We often assume that people are either naturally born with talents like communication and relationship-building or they’re not. But the truth is, these are skills that we can learn, understand, and actually develop over time.”
About Scrut Automation
Scrut Automation is a risk observability and compliance automation platform built to simplify information security monitoring for cloud-native companies. We help early-stage and growth-stage companies across the globe, establish enterprise-grade information security processes through an easy-to-use GRC platform.
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About Scrut Automation:
Scrut Automation empowers scaling companies to move Beyond Compliance, focusing on managing digital risk while reducing the friction of audit preparation, evidence collection, and risk monitoring.
Purpose-built for high-growth startups and mid-market businesses, Scrut simplifies the most tedious parts of compliance and risk management, keeping you audit-ready and risk-aware at all times. With seamless integration into your processes, Scrut delivers real-time insights and continuous monitoring, enabling proactive risk management to support sustainable growth. Focus on scaling your business confidently as Scrut automates compliance and strengthens your digital resilience—no more manual work or compliance chaos.
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