In this episode of Return to Wisdom, Keshia sits down with her friend Angela to talk through her journey into motherhood — from being told she was unlikely to conceive, through four very different births, miscarriage, and the process of finding trust in her own body and choices.

If you’re pregnant, exploring birth options, processing a past birth, or simply interested in real, unfiltered women’s stories, this conversation offers a lot to reflect on.

Note: Angela’s baby Mimi is in the studio with us, so you may hear a few soft baby sounds throughout the episode.

Key Themes in This Episode

• How the medical system shapes birth through fear and policy
  The tension between hospital protocols and physiological birth, and how that shows up for mothers.
• Autonomy and informed decision-making
  From induction conversations to postpartum checks, Angela speaks about learning to say no, ask questions and understand her options.
• Energetic boundaries in pregnancy and birth
  Why the attitudes and nervous systems of people in the room matter — and how this can affect the birth space.
• Different kinds of birth support
  Registered midwives, doulas, lay midwives and birthkeepers — and why having the right to choose who is present is so important.
• Grieving and healing miscarriage
  The difference between a hospital-managed D&C and a more spacious, supported miscarriage at home.
• Free birth as a considered choice
  For Angela and Nick, free birth was not about rejecting care, but about being prepared, educated, and responsible for their own decisions.

About Angela

Angela is a kinesiologist who works primarily with women — especially in pregnancy, birth preparation and birth trauma integration.

Coming soon:

• Energetic Boundaries for Pregnancy & Birth — an online workshop
• A Self-Clearing Course for women and children
• 1:1 kinesiology sessions resuming from February 2026

You can find Ange at https://www.angelajessup.com and IG @angelajessup_kinesiology

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